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MadassAlex:

--- Quote from: Patrick on 09 Mar 2008, 18:34 ---I think everybody here should listen to "They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Anymore" by Kinky Friedman.

It is easily the classiest piece of music ever written by man.

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Ahahahahaha, what.

Holy hell.

I see your Kinky Friedman and raise you Marty Friedman!

a pack of wolves:

--- Quote from: Spluff on 09 Mar 2008, 17:52 ---But that's the thing. It's not advertised on the posters as "3 hours of pure rock - and then 30 minutes of us pushing our political beliefs down your throat!". If the public was informed beforehand, then by all means go ahead - if you knew and you went, then you have no cause to complain. It's when they use a concert which is 95% full of people who just came to listen to their music to talk about politics that annoys me.

I don't see why it's so hard to separate the two - have a gig for music, and then another event where you can stand around and talk about your beliefs for a while. That way people only see what they want to see - and they know what they're getting into.

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Thing is, I have absolutely no interest in keeping the two separate. In fact, I'd like if it art was more integrated into political debate since I don't think speeches and essays are the only way to communicate about politics. I also don't have much interest in art which only gives to the audience exactly what it wants and expects, that sounds pretty dull to me. Most of the best gigs I've ever been to I've walked out thinking 'I wasn't expecting that'. And really, when was the last time you went to a gig and the band talked about politics for half an hour? I have a great interest in bands who are very vocal about their political beliefs but I've never seen anyone talk for that long. People start getting antsy if a band talk for longer than a minute in between songs. Besides, does the responsibility not lie with the audience to find out about the band before seeing them if they're very picky about the experience they encounter? If someone was to complain to me about talking during a set I'd say it was their own fault for going to a DIY gig in the first place if they don't want to encounter politics.

I suppose what I'm wondering is why is it so offensive to hear a band say a few things about politics?

KvP:

--- Quote from: Sox on 09 Mar 2008, 18:36 ---
--- Quote from: Spluff on 09 Mar 2008, 06:45 ---Likewise, if I go to a political debate and they whip out a guitar and play music, I will be pissed off.

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I do not think you are being honest with yourself here.

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I don't know, didn't John Kerry play a few songs at a campaign stop once?

That wasn't exactly exciting.

And it's my personal opinion that as long as you don't make politics the central conceit of your band (such that it takes precedence over the music), you're probably okay. I'm even cool with a little dumb sloganeering as long as I can dance to it.

Beastmouth:
When those bombs start fallin
On the first day of World War Three
I'm gonna grab me a girl
And fuck her
Yeah yeah
Yeah yeah

Johnny C:
The McLaughlin Group is working on a whole other level.

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