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--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 14 Mar 2008, 08:05 --- If you wanna tell me that pot is worse than me for alcohol I say you put up or shut up, try it and then tell me I'm wrong.
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Guess I'm shutting up, then. I'm not about to try it just to prove a point.
Patrick:
--- Quote from: Switchblade on 14 Mar 2008, 07:25 ---If you're willing to downgrade to cigars I think we can compromise on Captain 1920s though....
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Depending on the cigar, that isn't necessarily a downgrade. I'll take it, mate.
I enjoyed smoking weed last summer. Smoking weed was fun. Holy fuck was I ever hungry! Smoking weed is probably good for me in that respect, because I could stand to gain about 20 kilos of weight.
Ozymandias:
I do not and will probably never do pot.
The idea that it's less safe than alcohol, one of the biggest killers in the United States, is pretty much hilariously dumb. It's not safe to have on your person because you'll go to jail for carrying a fucking plant and you are a fucking idiot if you are constantly high, a condition you probably started with before the marijuana ever touched you. That's about as far as it goes.
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--- Quote from: Ozymandias on 14 Mar 2008, 17:02 ---I do not and will probably never do pot.
The idea that it's less safe than alcohol, one of the biggest killers in the United States, is pretty much hilariously dumb.
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See, this is the problem - Alcohol gets you killed quickly, weed doesn't. What it instead does is cause long-term health problems that don't show up until years or even decades later. I'd wager that the percentage of cancer-related deaths that were ultimately triggered by marijuana use is surprisingly high, for example.
The thing is, this serves to camouflage the risk it poses. Because it's not an immediate and obvious cause of death, it's easy to overlook.
Besides (this is purely my opinion this time, I have little to no evidence to back it up) I reckon that the major reason that alcohol is such a big cause of death in the States is at least partially founded in the country's attitude towards it. If you treat Alcohol as this Big Bad Scary Thing that should be avoided, Then the attitude towards it shifts. Round here, a single beer at lunchtime is nothing out of the ordinary (assuming you're having it as part of a meal, at least). On the other hand, from what I gather in certain social circles in the US, drinking quite often revolves around getting as drunk as possible as quickly as possible. I bet if you study the demographic of alcohol-related deaths, you'll discover a pattern - the vast majority will be in their early 20's, having only just been introduced to legal drinking, been thrust in at the deep end, and wound up doing something very dumb (like drinking waaaay too much) because they just didn't know how to cope.
Alcohol generally only kills people because they get stupid when they drink too much of it. That's not an inherent flaw with the drink, rather the flaw belongs to the way people treat the drink and handle its effects. Weed, on the other hand, does Bad Stuff to you even when you don't have a lot of it. It won't (usually) make you do stupid stuff, sure, but it will inevitably affect your health in the long term - Alcohol only does that if you don't handle it responsibly and drink far too much.
a pack of wolves:
You'd lose that wager on the cancer association, unless you've got evidence to refute the study onewheelwizard already cited which found no correlation between marijuana use and cancer rates and even a slight indication of it having a positive effect.
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