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redglasscurls:
I wasn't calling you a child, and I know perfectly well that driving drunk is a moronic, risky thing to do. However, I do agree with several people's posts here saying that drunk vs stoned are very different. It also varies significantly from person to person, in their general driving skill level and smoking experience.
BUT I would venture the unpopular notion that this also applies a bit to the question of driving under the influence of alcohol. People have varying tolerance levels, varying definitions of 'drunk', varying driving and decision-making skills...
I think it is a little too DARE to blanket-condemn at the same level of horror and indignation someone who has had a few drinks and decides they are safe to drive home versus someone rip-roaring drunk, or a 17-year old with 3 beers in him versus a 47-year old with the same.
SonofZ3:
Claiming to have committed a crime does provide probable cause to be investigated for committing said crime, but that really doesn't matter when it comes to something like DUI. No police organization in the country would start an investigation into someone having claimed to have committed DUI. Now, people who claim to be routine drug dealers, or to have committed various acts of assault are pretty stupid. Here in PA there is a 12 year statute of limitations on felonies, so keeping your mouth shut about that sort of thing is smart.
I think the reason rappers aren't always investigated for claiming to have committed crimes is the fact that every time someone like that is arrested it causes a huge media storm. We all know that people with the serious cash to fight criminal charges in America get treated with kid gloves by police organizations. It sucks, but oh well.
jhocking:
@rgc: While it is true that you're still fine to drive after having a drink at a dinner party, putting things in that way is too granular for such a dire issue. The unfortunate fact is that most people don't think in nuanced terms, only yes/no, so the important message to promulgate is that one shouldn't drink and drive.
Put another way, people who are still fine to drive deciding not to is not a problem, so in this issue it is much better to err on the side of caution in one's rhetoric.
pilsner:
--- Quote from: SonofZ3 on 18 Mar 2008, 12:09 ---Claiming to have committed a crime does provide probable cause to be investigated for committing said crime, but that really doesn't matter when it comes to something like DUI. No police organization in the country would start an investigation into someone having claimed to have committed DUI. Now, people who claim to be routine drug dealers, or to have committed various acts of assault are pretty stupid. Here in PA there is a 12 year statute of limitations on felonies, so keeping your mouth shut about that sort of thing is smart.
I think the reason rappers aren't always investigated for claiming to have committed crimes is the fact that every time someone like that is arrested it causes a huge media storm. We all know that people with the serious cash to fight criminal charges in America get treated with kid gloves by police organizations. It sucks, but oh well.
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Absolutely, but there could be an investigation if poster were to be involved in an accident. While it's definitely not likely that a pseudonymous post like the above could come back to haunt the poster, it's far from impossible. Given that you get nothing from posting on a forum other than the fleeting satisfaction of killing time and communicating with mostly strangers ... I'm not clear on why this is a good idea.
calenlass:
See, Manda, I got hit by a drunk driver at 3am the day before Christmas. They tried to pass me and didn't clear the front end of my car, and the roads were wet and I ended up spinning out across 7 lanes of traffic and smashing into the median wall. The other guy hit the wall too, but then he tried to drive off. One of my passengers ended up with a concussion, and my car was totalled.
My aunt was hit by a drunk driver when she was 19 and in college, and she was subsequently in a coma for 6 months and now she is partly paralyzed on one side of her body, has some paralyzed vocal cords, and has tunnel vision and no short term memory. Needless to say, she never graduated, and she cannot really hold down a job, either.
I could have told you before that I would never have gotten into the car with someone who was under the influence of anything, but now? Shit, if the local chapter of SADD didn't require dues I would probably join it. I have written a couple of letters to local congressmen about raising the penalties for DUI. You do not fuck around with this shit. Maybe once you get hit by someone who is enough of a dick to decide to drive drunk you'll understand where we are coming from.
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