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Patrick:
--- Quote from: pilsner on 18 Mar 2008, 20:17 ---Also, whatever happened to the fine art of conversation.
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Fuck that shit. Also: Hey, can I have cuddles too?
The solution to people always wanting to cop out of being DD: don't get a license. It's what I've been doing.
öde:
--- Quote from: Darkbluerabbit on 19 Mar 2008, 10:46 ---I'm trying to emphasize just how easy it can be to get a DUI.
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It's not that hard, unless you're too drunk to get into/start the car.
idiolect:
--- Quote from: Ozymandias on 18 Mar 2008, 13:24 ---
--- Quote from: jhocking on 18 Mar 2008, 12:15 ---@rgc: While it is true that you're still fine to drive after having a drink at a dinner party, putting things in that way is too granular for such a dire issue. The unfortunate fact is that most people don't think in nuanced terms, only yes/no, so the important message to promulgate is that one shouldn't drink and drive.
Put another way, people who are still fine to drive deciding not to is not a problem, so in this issue it is much better to err on the side of caution in one's rhetoric.
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This.
Also, what the fuck is wrong with the idea of putting other people's safety over your own desire to prove that you're okay to drive?
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Yeah, that.
Also, while we're throwing around anecdotes -- years ago, I was in a car with a stoned driver and he was driving like a complete asshole, because in his stoned state he thought it would be HI-LARIOUS to zoom around little residential streets yelling immature things at people's houses, and then he got into an accident and immediately fled the scene also because he was stoned (he was terrified of the cops figuring out he was stoned, and he still had pot on him), and it was awful. The end!
Oh wait, one more: Once a group of friends and I were going on a roadtrip. It was known beforehand among our group that some of us were regular pot smokers, but others were not, and so we agreed amongst our group that no one would "bring anything" with them, both out of simple courtesy to those who were uncomfortable with it as well as concern about getting in trouble with the law somehow. In the middle of the night, while we're doing 80 down the highway in the middle of nowhere rural America in our old beat up (read: suspicious looking) college-kid-road-trip-van, the guy in the back of the van suddenly lights up, with no warning to any of us at all, and as we're rolling down the windows to let the smoke out and asking him what the fuck, he coolly tells us that it's "no concern of yours." My point is, experiences like this are what make me really doubt that pot is totally fine -- it might not give you cirrhosis of the liver, but it sure does turn people into entitled assholes sometimes.
0bsessions:
There's something you either never thought of or are completely ignoring here:
Unless he was high BEFORE you got in (Which by the virtue of you guys being on the highway already, I doubt), the dude in the van was being an utter cunt BEFORE he got high.
So many people bitch about pot and what it does to people without taking into account that in pretty much all of these cases, the people were useless assholes BEFORE they started smoking pot. I don't know a single person who's become "addicted" to pot that, in retrospect, wasn't a pretty awful person before they started. I do know plenty of people who I simply do not like to drink around because booze changes them.
Patrick:
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 24 Mar 2008, 10:18 ---the dude in the van was being an utter cunt BEFORE he got high.
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THIS.
The tl;dr: Pot doesn't affect your inhibitions. Alcohol does. If you smoke pot, it doesn't release your inner douchebag, but when you drink, he comes out full-force and takes over.
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