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idiolect:

--- Quote from: Patrick on 26 Mar 2008, 06:09 ---Eh. I'm pretty certain you're not going to be convinced until you've actually tried to do something stoned.
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Guys, I don't know why you keep assuming that I've never done these things. 



--- Quote from: Patrick on 26 Mar 2008, 06:09 ---Because seriously, it doesn't affect your mobility at all. If anything it makes you hypersensitive to tiny motions, and it really does seem to have a time-slowing effect, because damned if it didn't feel like an hour driving the mile and a half home from where we lit up.

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As far as I'm concerned, when you're flinging a multi-ton metal object around, it better damn well feel like it is.



--- Quote from: jhocking on 26 Mar 2008, 06:45 --- Also, why is Firefox thinking "judgement" is misspelled?

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Because it's actually spelled "judgment."  I only found this out recently while writing this essay that uses the word "judgment" a bunch of times in it, and I still have to stop and think for a split-second in order not to put the "e" in there.
Edit!  Apparently it's spelled "judgement" in British English, and "judgment" in American.

BrittanyMarie:

--- Quote from: Patrick on 26 Mar 2008, 06:09 ---it doesn't affect your mobility at all.

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How it affected you isn't necessarily how it's going to affect others, though, not to mention the fact that people do have the tendency to think they're better than they are at things. I mean, just because you felt that it didn't affect your mobility doesn't make it true.

Besides, this idiolect person clearly said that driving stoned might or might not impair your driving; since there's still that shred of doubt, why would you risk it? Personally, every time I've gotten high I've felt light and airy, and paying attention to things other than "OH WOW YOUR HAIR IS SO SOFT" and "OH WOW THIS MUSIC IS EPIC" and "THIS IS THE TASTIEST PIZZA I HAVE EVER TASTED" was really really difficult. I could focus really hard one one thing at a time, but you have to focus on tons of things when you're driving. Other cars, pedestrians, traffic signals, speed limits; I'd probably run a red light and then giggle about it.

That person also said that they have smoked in the past, so I'm guessing they have tried to do something while stoned.

So basically, anecdotal evidence is shit! My experience, Jimmy's experience, Patrick's experience, Mr. Onewheelwizard's experience, a pack of wolves' experience... all our experiences with weed affected us differently, so any kind of "driving while stoned is ok/not ok" based on your own assumptions is obviously not going to work.

a pack of wolves:

--- Quote from: Barmymoo on 26 Mar 2008, 14:34 ---It might not be a good idea to mix other drugs into this conversation but in terms of behaviour alteration (rather than health implications or illegality), is cocaine or cannabis worse? I know it's more illegal, but I've always assumed that's to do with the expense and therefore other criminal behaviour caused by it, and the health damage. Wrong?

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A friend of mine refers to cocaine as 'twat powder'. It's well known for making many people be utter arseholes with a really mean, selfish edge when they're on it, even those who're extremely pleasant drunk, stoned, k-holed, tripping or anything else. Other people it just makes have a damn good time. But in general there's much more to be wary of them with weed.

Boro_Bandito:
I used to be an enormous pothead. I don't think I ever drove stoned, and I don't think I would ever want to. Wait, scratch that, more recently I did drive stoned, true, I was driving my friend's car because he was far worse off than me, but the fact remains that I didn't notice that the E. brake was on until we were halfway back to his apartment, and I had some trouble staying in my lane. So I know that its a bad idea at least for me personally, and for some others. I once rode in a car with another friend who was high while I was sober, and I thought I was gonna die several times because he was in slow motion while driving. For instance, we were turning onto his street and there was another car driving the opposite direction, and he turns RIGHT in front of it, nearly causing an accident. I've ridden with him on other occasions and he doesn't act that way while driving.

I agree on the douche-bag part though, weed doesn't change anyone's personality to my knowledge. My good for nothing older brother was good for nothing before he started heavily doing drugs, and he's still a good-for nothing older brother now that he's clean, though at least he is trying now not to be.

Patrick:

--- Quote from: BrittanyMarie on 26 Mar 2008, 15:32 ---
--- Quote from: Patrick on 26 Mar 2008, 06:09 ---it doesn't affect your mobility at all.

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How it affected you isn't necessarily how it's going to affect others, though, not to mention the fact that people do have the tendency to think they're better than they are at things. I mean, just because you felt that it didn't affect your mobility doesn't make it true.

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Like I told Old Man Hocking, the true litmus test is to see whether or not you accidentally injure/disfigure/kill yourself while working with 350-degree (Fahrenheit) oil.

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