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no one special:

--- Quote from: Ikrik on 24 Apr 2008, 19:14 ---The epilogue for the book was the single biggest copout I've EVER seen in my life....actually, that's not really true.  Ever since the 4th book the series has been terrible and predictable and incredibly angsty.  Malfoy doesn't die?  WHAT!?  Harry is still alive?! WHAT!? Ok...so Harry....hates Malfoy and Malfoy hates Harry and in the seventh book they're PRETTY close to killing each other...and yet years later they can see each other on a railway platform and not duke it out?  Not possible. 

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a couple of points:

1) Harry saved his life.  No matter how much you hate someone, if a wholly selfless act out of the goodness of their heart is the sole reason you're not a smoking pile of Fiendfyre ash, you'll cut 'em a little slack.  Oh, you'll still hate him, but there'll be a microscopic dusty fleck of gratitude nagging you in the back of your mind.

2) After Voldemort was destroyed, Malfoy's time to shine was over.  The reign of Dark wizardry was toast, so the Dark Wizard kids pretty much go into hiding and go on with their lives after that - especially if they, like Malfoy, are lucky enough not to be locked away for the rest of their days. 

3) Malfoy was changed after that experience.  After basically being condemned to death for some s*** your father did, and almost dying numerous times, anyone would be.  You realize you got off lucky and you grow older and a little wiser and decide to focus on more important things in life.  The old hatred is still there, but you're not gonna go dueling in the streets anymore.


I do agree with you though, that Harry not dying was crap.  Having a martyr who lives is just.... I dunno, feels wrong. 


MissAmbiguity:
A few things

People who can read book five in one sitting are insane. I can read each of the other books in a day. I can read the first three in a day... but serious OotP is huuuge, it takes me two days every time. I read DH in one sitting, six hours, as well.

The epilogue was full of crap. I understand JK Rowling needed to give Harry a family after his traumatic childhood, I do... but seriously that was tied up waaay too neatly. The girl of his dreams is conveniently the girl who's been in love with him since she was 10. She's also so beautiful that the Slytherins would have her if her family wasn't full of blood traitors. She's a great athlete and she also has a mean bogey hex which she can get away with, every time. She's funny, popular and relates to Harry because she's also been possessed by Voldermort. She also has red hair and reminds Harry of his mother. She's also a bit of an outcast in the beginning because of her second hand robes and lack of nice things, so she's suffered for character. Isn't that just perfect?

=.= And anyways... here in the muggle world, how many people marry their high school sweethearts? Really.

Any ways, Harry and Draco, I don't think it's unusual that they can at least be civil to each other in public. Harry did save his life in the room of requirement. Narcissa may have had ulterior motives when she told Voldermort Harry was dead, but she did save his life.

ThePQ4:

--- Quote from: MissAmbiguity on 24 Apr 2008, 23:27 ---People who can read book five in one sitting are insane.

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Maybe you're the one who is insane, and the rest of us are just spectacularly awesome... Or have a lot of time on our hands.
(For the record: I believe it took me about...15 hours, including the half-hour of sleep I took to read the book...the first time. The second time it was probably more like 10)

I agree about the prologue thing though. It was pretty bad. I would have preferred to have never seen it, and left with that "wonderment" of what happened to the characters afterwards. But, over all, I still love the series, and I don't understand why people who don't insist on trying to bring down the rest of us for liking it... If you say they're so shitty, why do you involve yourselves in conversations about it??

Just sayin'.

Lines:
I read all of the books in one sitting the first time I read them, including OotP. They aren't challenging reads, even if some of them are quite long, and I'm a fast reader as is. One of my friends actually finished a few hours before I did and had to struggle not to tell me about what happened in book 5. I had to do the same for book 7 with her, because I didn't have to work the next day and she did.

0bsessions:
I would like it noted that I guarantee every single person here bitching about the fact the ending was "wrapped up too neatly" or would have preferred to "wonder" would have been bitching relentlessly about a lack of closure and asking "but what happens to everyone" if the book ended after the Battle of Hogwarts. Ambiguous endings do not please the masses.

Seriously, are we, as a society, so jaded that we can't deal with a happy ending once in a while? Jesus, a little optimism won't kill you.

I would also like it noted that I feel Harry's relationship with Ginny was rather natural and organic. They weren't "high school sweethearts." They dated for all of a couple months throughout their time in school together. She was his best friend's sister and I'd classify her much more along the lines of "girl next door" than anything and she fit the classic girl next door archetype. She was the one girl amongst six boys raised in a loving, but tight environment. If you ask me, Ginny's one of the more realistic characters in the books.

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