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How did the QC universe get so different from ours?
Rocketman:
--- Quote from: JReynolds on 03 Apr 2008, 05:11 ---Rocketman - have you played Victoria: Empires under the Sun? Some of the event chains seem familiar.
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Caught again, damn it all. Yup. 8-)
Is it cold in here?:
Rocketman wins the thread.
Norton Quintessential:
Wait, I'm confused: does Rocketman's timeline mean that there were slaves well into the 80's? What about the underlying current of anti-semitism in Germany? That wouldn't go away just because there was no Nazi party. And does this mean that Palestine was never formed? And isn't the main reason that Eugenics and racism as a whole began to decline in the latter part of the 20th century because the world was shocked and horrified at Hitler's atrocities?
Also, I'm sure one QC strip mentioned a Nazi horse.
Rocketman:
--- Quote from: Norton Quintessential on 07 Apr 2008, 17:05 ---Wait, I'm confused: does Rocketman's timeline mean that there were slaves well into the 80's?
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The 1880s, yes, in the South. Northern slaves were freed in 1866 with the 13th Amendment. Southern slaves were emancipated in the 1880s as the cotton-based economy crumbled and the South was forced to shift towards industry. Segregation would continue in both nations well into the 1970s in the North and 1986 in the South.
--- Quote ---What about the underlying current of anti-semitism in Germany? That wouldn't go away just because there was no Nazi party.
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Yes, but a victorious Germany has no need for scapegoats and deathcamps.
--- Quote ---And does this mean that Palestine was never formed?
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Palestine is an Arabic province under the rule of the Ottoman Empire, as are what we would call Iraq, Syria and the Arabian Peninsula. There is a Jewish nation on the former French island of Madagascar.
--- Quote ---And isn't the main reason that Eugenics and racism as a whole began to decline in the latter part of the 20th century because the world was shocked and horrified at Hitler's atrocities?
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I severely doubt that. In OTL, there were twenty years between the fall of Hitler and the end of segregation in the US. Besides...
--- Quote ---Also, I'm sure one QC strip mentioned a Nazi horse.
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Fascism arose in France. The Germans dubbed the parading Frenchmen "Nazi", a Bavarian slang word meaning "buffoon".
Norton Quintessential:
OK... first off, this isn't anything personal, I just love debating. :wink:
I highly doubt that the South would have freed their slaves so quickly, purely because of the intense racism of the time. Integration practically happened during reconstruction, were it not for Southern democrats and "Ex"-Confederates who refused to accept the new order. If the Confederate government tried to free the slaves in the 1880's, the majority of the (white) people probably would have hauled them out and hung them from the nearest tree.
Crumbling cotton economy or not, slavery was the whole reason the South seceeded in the first place. To give ANY sort of concession to what many considered a "lesser race" probably would have seemed like an insult to most Confederates. It gets whitewashed a lot today, but The CSA was a nation FOUNDED on racism.
Second... how about the fact that Hitler and Nazism have been referenced in the same strip before in the QC-verse? :-P
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