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How did the QC universe get so different from ours?
waterloosunset:
--- Quote from: Turtle on 11 Apr 2008, 20:11 ---I'm sticking with "It's nearly identicle with slight tweaks in technology". You can assume from some of the references made that the world is largely similar (Pintsize's Lincoln and Castro beards, for instance), so I like to think that an Einsteinian (Amazing word) person was born that helped humans make the leap in technology that we have not.
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so chances are, QC is either in the present day, without the weakening of NASA in the past, or set about 10-15 years in the future
Red Peril:
Just a couple of history notes:
1. The majority of Britons in the late C19th supported the CSA, if a CSA victory appeared likely interventionist Britain would probably have joined the war on its side.
2. Britain had no problems trading with slave nations as long as it suited its goals, it considered anti-slave rhetoric as protection enough from censure.
3. Britain got most of its cotton from India until the mid-C20th, running a major scam in which it brought Indian cotton at miniscule prices then sold the finished clothes back at astronomical prices (thus the spinning wheel on India's flag as a sign of Independence)
4. The Glorious Revolution was an attempt to get rid of James II because he was a Catholic, and the English Civil war had been fought because...the king was a Catholic. Most Britons supported William III just to avoid another Civil War.
PS. Rocketman, I salute you. Lots of good ideas, I'm not slagging anyone off, I just really love history.
Rocketman:
--- Quote from: Red Peril on 14 Apr 2008, 03:53 ---1. The majority of Britons in the late C19th supported the CSA, if a CSA victory appeared likely interventionist Britain would probably have joined the war on its side.
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A CS victory doesn't appear likely in my timeline until Lincoln loses the 1864 election. Up to that point, the war runs as in our timeline (Lee's invasions of the North fail, Vicksburg falls, the Emancipation Proclamation is issued)
I could maybe see Britain getting involved navally, to break the Union blockade, sail up the Potomac or something and force Lincoln to realize he's lost (after the election, of course), but there was a "March to the Sea" reference in the comic. Plus, I don't think the Brits would want to risk Canada with the possibility of the South collapsing before Lincoln's out of office.
--- Quote ---2. Britain had no problems trading with slave nations as long as it suited its goals, it considered anti-slave rhetoric as protection enough from censure.
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Hm, true. I doubt the independent-minded Confederates will want to become basically a British dominion once other nations stop trading, especially with leftover resentment from their non-interference in the War of Secession.
--- Quote ---3. Britain got most of its cotton from India until the mid-C20th, running a major scam in which it brought Indian cotton at miniscule prices then sold the finished clothes back at astronomical prices (thus the spinning wheel on India's flag as a sign of Independence)
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A lot of the shift to India and Egypt for cotton, though, happened because the Southern cotton plantations were shut off with the Union blockade.
--- Quote ---PS. Rocketman, I salute you. Lots of good ideas, I'm not slagging anyone off, I just really love history.
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Me too, it's all good. 8-)
Jepser:
--- Quote from: Doug S. Machina on 10 Apr 2008, 13:49 ---Apparently we've had a very close relationship with the Dutch. I just read that they invaded Britain with a fleet five times larger than the Spanish Armada to depose hated King ...James? (Damn useless memory, I only read that the day before yesterday. But I could recount an old review for a game I'm never going to buy. My brain will only retain something if it's sure it's of no use.) Oddly, it was written out of history as a "glorious revolution".
I suppose pleasant obscurity is the way of the future. Should we just stop fighting it and make life more comfortable for ourselves?
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William III, the stadhouder (steward) of the Netherlands married Mary II, the daughter of the indeed hated king James. James was removed from the throne and William and Mary ruled the Netherlands, England, Scotland and Ireland. Suppose they got a kid, what would've happened? But they didn't, so England and Holland split up again. I don't know exactly why James was so hated though, I believe it was because he was catholic while the rest of the country was protestant or something.
It would be interesting to know what would've happened if William and Mary did get a kid. It was the British who demised the Dutch trading monopoly, so what would've happened if they were joined? An Anglo-Dutch World Empire? The US never born? 1984? o_O
Oh yeah..
--- Quote ---...of Orange [what is now the Netherlands]...
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Orange is a family name. My country has never been named after a citrus fruit. xD
JReynolds:
--- Quote from: Jepser on 14 Apr 2008, 11:13 ---My country has never been named after a citrus fruit. xD
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Jesper, I apologize to you and all inhabitants of the Netherlands.
A child of William III and Mary II would have made a difference. Instead of Hanover and Britain dynastically joined, it would have been the Netherlands and Britain.
What was the Dutch position on female succession? Hanover & Britain's dynastic joining of 1714-1837 ended with the accession of Queen Victoria-- the Hanoverians didn't allow females to be monarchs, so a the succession went to the fifth-eldest son of George III (as opposed to Victoria, who was the daughter of the Duke of Kent, George III's fourth-oldest son). I suspect that the British-Dutch union would have ended at some similar way-- either by an amicable dissolution or a Dutch rebellion.
Perhaps if Jeph has one of his characters make a trip to New York, and it is called Nieuw Amsterdam we'll know for sure that this is what happened!
(yeah, right!)
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