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dennis:

--- Quote from: Patrick on 28 Mar 2008, 08:42 ---I'm not saying get rid of the thread, but that post that I referred to seemed to be rather inflammatory. I also realize that recently I haven't exactly been one to talk. My apologies to dennis, but my point still stands: it's turning inflammatory, and nobody likes inflammatory.
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I disagree that it was inflammatory, but of course, that's my opinion. I could simply have said something like "You're being an ass. Read the paper, you ignorant tool," but I did not because that wasn't called for.

On the other hand, you were basically telling pilsner and me to hold our tongues while offering your own nonconstructive, dismissive opinion. That seems rude to me.


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--- Quote from: Patrick on 27 Mar 2008, 05:34 ---Besides, I think it's all crap anyway. People are bored and life is difficult, full of fear, and depressing. What's one fun thing they can do? Have sex with each other. It's like college, except with more fatal STDs.

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Maybe I should've been more specific in saying that I don't think coffee trading has much to do with the spread of HIV at all. Sure, maybe some truck driver is going to go bang somebody after his run's over, but I don't think trading in and of itself is to blame. If the drivers who DO go out and have unprotected sex were to practice safer sex methods, the spread of HIV would drop tremendously, that's my bet.

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Taking your comments in the context of the presentation, they say almost nothing substantive. Oster's presentation was offering a hypothesis that safer sex campaigns were not as effective in Uganda as they are thought to be, and part of the evidence was the strong correlation between increased export value and increased HIV incidence, backed up by studies of truck drivers and their spouses, among others. If what you're saying is true, then in the wake of the ABC campaign in Uganda, truck drivers should not be spreading HIV, but the data shows the opposite. Perhaps truck drivers weren't well-reached by the ABC campaign, but that explanation doesn't invalidate Oster's hypothesis.

Liz:
Or be like me and post less. Now that I don't have a computer in my room its hard to waste hours at a time on the forums and therefore I have been posting only when I truly felt it necessary. Mostly.

Luke C:
This is an interesting debate, maybe everyone involved needs to tune down a little, after all while you may disagree your both making some good points.

The point of the presentation was, AIDS is bad but we know very little about it which is true. 20 years on from Live Aid and we stil know so little about the disease and so many people are ignorant to the risks, even in the US/UK etc. Oster raises an amazing flaw when she states that we have only got good data about AIDS since 2003!

What is clear is HIV/AIDS cannot be tackled by one method alone. It will rely on increasing education, reducing poverty, improving medicine/vaccination for HIV/AIDS and other diseases and may other things. For starters if many of these countries stopped the mass-killing of each other and tried to sort out their problems for a while a lot more might get done! In The Sudan there has been civil war for 50 years, how can a country ever properly develop in such conditions?

calenlass:
THIS THREAD DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH BUTTS

blanktom:
just a quick note for those that are reading and still dont know;

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