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Nodaisho:
I guess I can see the point of an unmarked minefield if it is far away from where there will be fighting, I would be iffy about any kind of battle where you had to move when near an unmarked minefield, you don't have time to use a map during a battle.
Exactly, marked minefields are area denial, just like razor wire or tank traps, both of those can be cleared, but that takes time, time during which you will have people shooting at you.
Yeah, international agreements are only enforced by public reputation. I suppose mines are kind of fucked up, but they exist, what are you going to do?
a pack of wolves:
Agitate for them to be banned, a tactic that has been successful in most of the world. Countries like Russia, China and the US are unusual in refusing to ban anti-personnel landmines outright.
Nodaisho:
So three of the most powerful countries are unwilling to put themselves at a disadvantage to the other two? Imagine that.
Banning them won't actually cause them to cease being used, people will find a way to make new landmines that do not fall under the limits of the restrictions, they will use anti-tank mines that just happen to also go off if a human does something, or something else. The way I understand it, the supposed reason the US doesn't sign the ottowa treaty is because that would make them get rid of the ones lining the North/South Korea border, which apparently serve as a very large deterrent to North Korea.
They exist, they will exist, people will use loopholes to get around them, or won't follow the rules.
I don't like them, but thinking that you can get rid of them is foolish.
Slick:
Guys, I think we should take a moment and give landmines the respect that they are due. I mean, they're still doing what they do, years after we expected to need them. They're like the energizer bunny of wanton destruction!
EDIT: Nodaisho, that is a piss-poor attitude. I am a person in this world and I will damn well try to get rid of landmines if I want to.
The thought that you can't change something you take issue with is a lame excuse for inaction and acceptance of a bad world.
Nodaisho:
Go ahead, try to change it, I won't stop you, maybe you will lower the fatalities and injuries temporarily, before they find a way around, or simply break the rules. You can be the landmine equivalent of someone who writes virus software.
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