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The Great Porn Debate
Jimmy the Squid:
Oh yeah, I totally have violent tendencies. I mean, when I have a bad day at the call centre (everyday is a bad day when you work in a call centre) I have the option of coming home and stewing about it while I wonder what to make for dinner or I can dress up like a ninja, throw on some Incantation and curbstomp some fools on Gears of War and you just know which one I'm going to choose. However, if I were a calm and placid dude I would just chill out on the couch with some Skulker or maybe watch some MASH while eating a Kit-Kat.
Ozymandias:
--- Quote from: jhocking on 27 Apr 2008, 07:31 ---I bet there are also correlations between watching C-Span and feelings of aggression, eating breakfast and feelings of aggression, and exposure to avante garde poetry and feelings of aggression. Just generally, people have a lot of pent up aggression.
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The point was that it was actually significantly less pronounced in the healthy middle between not playing and playing too much.
Also, there is hell of a correlation between C-Span and violence.
Oli:
--- Quote from: Jimmy the Squid on 27 Apr 2008, 08:18 ---surely no clear-thinking person would think that someone who is naturally non-violent would be interested in a videogame where you are rewarded for shooting people in the face or a film where a woman is violently degraded.
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I'm a completely non-violent person. I've been a pacifist since I was old enough to consider it and I've not physically hurt anyone - excluding accidents and when I used to play rugby - since I was a nipper. In short, I absolutely abhor violence. At the same time however I enjoy video games such as GTA, CoD4 and a host of other games which involve simulated harm towards pixels as well as extremely violent films and literature.
I am entirely able to see the distinction between simulated/fictional violence and real violence. Saying that only people with violent tendencies (even if they never act on them in the real world) can enjoy violent media is nonsense.
One of my favourite novels is American Psycho and I'm entirely certain that I appreciate it for reasons other than a means of catharsis that stops me turning into Patrick bateman.
20 jazz funk greats:
--- Quote from: MadassAlex on 27 Apr 2008, 03:32 ---I mean occasionally you will find a gem of "clean" hardcore porn as I call it, where the dude simply just fucks the chick without any of the bullshit dirty talk and stuff. But most of that kind of porn is Japanese, I seriously have never seen Japanese porn (that isn't hentai) that includes half the bullshit that western porn does (except bukkake but that's a reaction to pornography laws).
It's like, the people involved actually partake of actions that are genuinely erotic without being domineering or subservient.
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1) no dirty talk? right i am sure everything that is being said to those girls is perfectly polite and respectful. i mean i don't know japanese or anything but they can't possibly be going against any assumptions we may have about their culture.
2) japanese porn is worse than western porn when it comes to being degrading and if you don't think so you have obviously not seen enough of it. the crying schoolgirl theme is quite prevalent.
3) like, no. not at all. so much of the stuff they come up with is the polar opposite of erotic.
Ozymandias:
Japanese hardcore is very good at making me feel vaguely uncomfortable about if the girl meant to be there or not.
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