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The Great Porn Debate
RedLion:
--- Quote from: valley_parade on 27 Apr 2008, 12:21 ---All this talk of Japanese hardcore porn reminds me of that NOFX song.
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Japanese hardcore porn is washed-up and was never that good to begin with?
valley_parade:
More along the lines of that EP track "Cool and Unusual Punishment".
MadassAlex:
--- Quote from: Patrick on 27 Apr 2008, 11:18 ---Can we talk about how awesome guro hentai is now?
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Yes
Also, the idea was that those wacky Japanese assholes are actually good at porn, especially straightforward hardcore. Yes, there is some fucked up weaboo porn out there but at least it doesn't hide itself, it's all like, "If you like fucked up porn you will like this", where western porn is "ALL BETS ARE OFF, MOTHERFUCKER".
I stand by what I said about amateur porn, though. I really, really can't find a fault with it, morally or practically.
muteKi:
Well, whatever. Apparently Cream Lemon had a really cool lesbian scene in the Pop Chaser thing, though elsewhere there's some wacked-out stuff in that one.
But man, that Pop Chaser scene was awesome.
EDIT: Apparently some of said whack content is a set in which one girl doesn't like sex because of a series of rapes in her family, so her counselor has her strip down in front of an art class and finger herself. One thing leads to another and there's a massive orgy.
All I've seen is that one Pop Chaser scene, though.
Fenriswolf:
--- Quote from: Jimmy the Squid on 27 Apr 2008, 08:18 ---I'm pretty sure that people who have violent inclinations like violent things. It would be pretty silly to say that playing violent video games or watching violent films or listening to violent music makes people (who would otherwise be totally placid and friendly) behave violently. Obviously this is the argument that a lot of people make but surely no clear-thinking person would think that someone who is naturally non-violent would be interested in a videogame where you are rewarded for shooting people in the face or a film where a woman is violently degraded.
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I disagree. (a) I like to make a clear distinction between violence and sexual violence. I enjoy violence in movies and games, I cannot handle sexual violence in any media. Also, just as rape can be non-violent yet just as traumatising, porn doesn't have to be violent to be degrading. And my problem is the really really subtle shit that's there not just in porn but all mainstream media teaching the general populace that women are weak, women are sexually passive, sex is something to take from women, all the things that allow rapists to walk away scot free because a women dared wear a short skirt/be drunk/go to a party/leave the house/be friendly with men/be related to men/exist as female
--- Quote from: Ozymandias on 27 Apr 2008, 11:42 ---Even the straightforward sex in Japanese hardcore is like, the girl is scrunched up at the other end of the bed like she's hiding. It's creepy.
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Not that I have extensive experience with Japanese porn but I have a borderline fetish for Japanese women (which I feel really bad about but I totally positively discriminate when it comes Japanese women) and have had friends send me lots of bits and pieces. Enough to agree that the inclination toward fetishising submissiveness and actual discomfort with sex IS really creepy
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