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The Great Porn Debate
Fenriswolf:
I don't know Torontoguy - I like your answers, but I think you're giving people too much credit. And I would much rather change attitudes than ban anything (just like I despise the controversial elements of GTA but wouldn't ban it - I just wish you could play the game as a female protagonist, with no killing hookers or at least the availability of male hookers - ha, really I just wish people could enjoy violent games without wanting to involve fucking women in their jollies) but since those attitudes have been around for such a long, long time and aren't really abating that much I feel a line should be drawn.
The fact is, you're an educated consumer. You're no rapist. But IMO most people (I say people for I truly believe it's the human condition - it's just that it's usually men put in this situation) would rape if put in the right situation, or at the very least stand by and say nothing. I can understand rape as it occurs in war (as the most extreme example of being drawn into it) but despise the perpetrators no less for it.
Realistically, the chances of you going to jail for raping a women is very slim. The conviction rate is well below half, and if it's not stranger-rape (of course the least common) the chances of the woman being believed is ridiculously low. I'm all in support of reporting but I wouldn't. It's not worth the pain. A woman was gang-raped at 17 years old by a bunch of cops, convicted them years later. Fought and fought and fought, was labelled a liar. Finally convicted 2 out of 4 of them, they got 8 years and now they're getting out after 3 years in prison.
If someone succeeds in raping me I will kill them or myself. Or possibly both. I own knives, I have no problem cutting arteries and frankly I'd love to beat a rapist to death. Unfortunately I cannot be partisan on this subject as I have two choices of emotion when discussing rape - overwhelming, function-destroying terror or blinding rage. I choose blinding rage.
Tom:
TRUE FACT: 10 people at my school have not slept since GTAIV's release.
jhocking:
TRUE FACT: 10 people at your school need to get some fresh air.
snalin:
To the whole rape in porn-thingy, you will not, ever, rape someone if you have the right morals implanted. This is why it's so extreamly important for adults to teach their children that forcing someone into sex is never okay. Ever.
I wouldn't want rape porn to be less legal than the rest of the porn industry. The biggest problem with porn isn't that it deranges women, but that women is forced into doing it (just like prostitution) because of poverty. I sincerely belive that pornography and prostitution should not exist in societies where poverty exists, because then the majority of the women and men in it is people who have to because of economy. And having to use your body to earn money unless you are completely comfortable with it is, is not something anyone should have to go through, ever. Of cource, there's the argument that some men can't get laid, ever, and need the prostitutes and porn to have a sex-life. But this is a microscopic bit of the customers. Most are just normal men that has a horny side that isn't satesfied with what they have at the moment. They do not need it, but they use the women as cheap entertainment.
Desiering women (especially naked ones. hurr hurr) is never wrong, it's just that you should desire them as willing sex-partners, not pussy and boobs.
I cannot imagine how boring it would be to sleep with a woman that lies down, spreads her legs, and screams like a fucking pig being slaughtered slowly. Porn-sounds are terribly creepy, really, most people I know just turn of the frigging sound.
I have always wondered how stupid someone must feel when they do hentai-voiceovers.
--- Quote from: Storm Rider on 06 May 2008, 00:13 ---On top of all that, even if you banned pornography that depicted 'rape', it's not like it would really prevent people who wanted to see it from finding it.
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mhm, completely on the spot. Think of Pedophilia, it's out there, for the sick and disgusting people that will search for it. That being said, I think pedophilia is far, far worse than rape porn, since the whole rape-roleplay thing is okay if both parts agree to it.
--- Quote from: Cartilage Head on 07 May 2008, 10:01 ---I'm pretty sure I invented the idea of pocket-fucking. It is where a guy sticks his dick in a woman's pants pocket.
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I just started thinking of the Norwegian "lommemannen" (the pocket man). He removed the... errr.... stuffing in his pocket, so the pocket was only a hole. Then he asked smal children to help him find his keys or something in his pocket. Thus resulting in them touching his man-parts. He abused the nature of smal children to be nice and helpfull. Just a digression, not on topic, but still, it shows how sick people can be. So, for the sake of hundreds of kids that has been abused by a stranger for over 10 years before they got the fucker, the combination of pocekts and fuckin is never funny.
onewheelwizzard:
--- Quote from: snalin on 09 May 2008, 09:32 ---I cannot imagine how boring it would be to sleep with a woman that lies down, spreads her legs, and screams like a fucking pig being slaughtered slowly. Porn-sounds are terribly creepy, really, most people I know just turn of the frigging sound.
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See my earlier posts on this thread. In good porn (read: porn involving legitimately real orgasms) the visuals are secondary (for me anyway).
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