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The Dark Knight (SPOILERS START ON PAGE 3)
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Straight up Ozy, you are my dogg.
Not that I have anything against Johnny Depp, or even think that he wouldn't pull it off, but he is right on the money.
Scandanavian War Machine:
--- Quote from: JediBendu on 29 Jul 2008, 10:16 ---stuff about Deadshot
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i wanted to see Deadshot too but then i watchd the animated Gotham Knight which is aparently a sort of bridge between the two Nolan movies and one of the shorts actually had Deadshot being a real badass and hunting Batman but, of course, Batman caught him. this obviously doesn't rule him out but Deadshot being hired to kill Batman has already been done in this...universe? assuming they are the same universe, of course.
so yeah, i'm not sure if Nolan is considering those animated shorts canon for his universe or not. probably not. but he if is then Deadshot is probably out, unless he A)breaks out of jail or B)gets released by the police to kill Batman.
--- Quote from: Bayley on 29 Jul 2008, 14:43 ---Johnny Depp
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i love Johnny Depp and i think he is a pretty great actor but i don't think he is even remotely right for this Joker. And as much as i hate to say it...i think Brad Pitt could probably fill Ledger's shoes (collosal as they may be) but i'd rather they just left the Joker alone because Ledger was pretty much it for me...it just wouldn't feel right with anybody else, no matter how well they performed it.
KvP:
--- Quote from: blanktom on 29 Jul 2008, 14:20 ---How about giving Batman an ally?!
Votes on who? A re-introduction of Robin seems unlikely...but Nolan could pull it off so well I'm sure.
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I believe Nolan's said that he will have no part of a Robin re-introduction. Wouldn't fit anyway. Batman's very much a solitary figure in this series. It's actually difficult to imagine that Superman exists in this universe.
And as far as I'm concerned the Joker is finished in this particular series.
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No Robin. Batman has allies, even if they don't go out and help him fight. Though a lot of interesting story lines come out of having Robin, I don't really want a movie with Robin yet. I think there are so many other options out there that should be pursued instead.
Also, the only time I'd ever want to see Superman in a Batman movie is so Superman almost dies, like when he's almost killed by the nuke. But as that's a recent story line when it comes to Batman, I don't ever see that happening. Though I'd love to see Superman get his ass handed to him, it's probably best he doesn't come around, as it wouldn't fit with the movies trying to be anchored in reality.
JediBendu:
--- Quote from: Linds on 29 Jul 2008, 17:27 ---Though I'd love to see Superman get his ass handed to him, it's probably best he doesn't come around, as it wouldn't fit with the movies trying to be anchored in reality.
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Actually I personally would really love it if Warner Bros. started to kind of connect, at least imply that the DC movies take place in the same universe. Marvel seems to be doing pretty well with their films so far, people are already excited about Avengers and it's supporting films. Even though Warner Bros. hasn't really mined the DC universe to its full extent (it'll be a fucking tragedy if The Flash and Green Lantern films get made and suck, especially The Flash.)
Oh ya, and anybody who doesn't think Robin is a serious enough character, or doesn't fit with Batman. Well... you need to read more Batman, I guess. The whole appeal of Robin is the juxtaposition with Batman, and the balance he provides in Bruce/Batman's life. Both as a crime-fighting partner and a surrogate son. Even Nolan's Batman will feel the need for family eventually (and what other family member/ally should be introduced next if not the original?). For anyone who thinks Robin isn't serious enough: Dick Grayson is pretty much a direct parallel to Batman himself. Jason Todd was the centerpoint of one of the most emotionally scarring and important events in Bruce's life. And even the Batman comic that started the revolution of "darker comics" featured a Robin, this one a barely teenaged, red-headed female (see: The Dark Knight Returns.)
There is absolutely nothing wrong, at all, with Dick Grayson's Robin in particular. He is as much a part of Batman as someone like The Joker is. If Nolan doesn't want to do Robin, then, whatever, I don't agree with that decision, but it's not that big a deal. But if he truly can't successfully integrate the character, then, he's not even really doing Batman right, because dozens of comic book writers have pulled off that feat.
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