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Child Pornography or Art? Is there a line, if so where?
KvP:
--- Quote from: Sox on 28 May 2008, 11:30 ---I'm close to several people who were sexually abused as kids. All but one of them spent years in silence. All but one of them have severe trust issues. Each of them felt alone, violated, humiliated. Each of them spent most of their lives miserable because of the act itself, not the 'after the fact' stuff.
Kids are still developing both physically and mentally, and no rational, sane person would think they're ready for that kind of thing. Kids are the most fragile people in the world, handle them as if they were made of glass and treat them with the highest level of respect you can.
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This. There's a lot of guilty feeling involved as well. Telling their parents you were abused (unless of course they are the abusers) is the most difficult thing they will ever do. They feel guilty for failing to protect their children, and the child feels guilty for dealing such a massive emotional blow to the family. It's like shooting them in the heart. A lot of people never recover from that. Thoughts of suicide or murder of the abuser are fairly constant. It ruins you.
David_Dovey:
--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 28 May 2008, 20:06 ---Yeah, no government except France. Oh, and Italy. And Germany. And Switzerland. And Canada. And Argentina. And Austria, Chile, Russia, Sweden, Vatican City, Poland, Uruguay, Belgium, Slovakia, Greece, Lebanon, the Netherlands and Armenia itself.
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So how is this post in effect any different from my (admittedly dumb, throwaway) comment invoking the Holocaust, aside from some stupid "law"?
gardenhead_:
--- Quote from: n0t_r0bert_b0yle!! on 28 May 2008, 23:43 ---Tommy, gardenhead_, I wasn't at all being serious when I suggested that we ignore Pi.
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sorry, my bad. sarcasm and the internet etc.
bob, just bob:
can we please leave the Genocide think by the wayside? it had only a passing reference to the topic at hand and now it is nowhere near it. and it's quickly degenerating into pseudo-debate. that picture was pretty unnecessary and is really just there for the shock factor, and using shock tactics is not a legitimate way to win an argument, pictures as proof is a great way to help our an argument but that's not what you did no one is disputing whether it happen, just whether it happened on the scale that it did, and that picture did nothing to prove that it happened on the scale that your arguing for.
anyways...
back to the topic at hand... there is something to be said for the "after the fact" nature of emotional and mental damage, I'm not saying that damage isn't caused by the act itself, it's a horribly traumatic experience and it can cause horrible repercussions in the person's life. but I also think that even more damage can be caused by society freaking these poor children out over how damaged they were, some kids can get over this and get through it but when everyone around its telling them that "no your not dealing with it your just repressing everything get it all out" then they start to think well maybe I am really fucked up when in reality they were dealing with it fine.
Eris:
What does the Genocide have to do with paedophilia, anyway? Was it a massacre of paedophiles? Was it ordered by a paedophile? Was there a large surge of paedophiles about after it finished? Where is the link?
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