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A thread about psychedelics
Scandanavian War Machine:
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--- Quote from: Scandanavian War Machine on 16 Jun 2008, 10:42 ---Yeah, it was pretty much a wooden box with dirt in it. Nothing fancy here.
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And he didn't sterilize anything, or inoculate sterile substrate then mix it in? He literally just dumped in liquid spores, and left it alone?
That's interesting. All my buddy's go through a really length process of sterilizing substrate, jars, themselves, and the room it's to be done in. Then they inoculate the Sterile jars and substrate, let micillium grow, then fruit it.
Your way sounds easier.
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as far as i know, he pretty much just treated it like a regular indoor herb garden, like the kind you would grow basil in in your kitchen or whatever. i don't know about any of that stuff you mentioned but that sounds really unecessary...i mean...mushrooms are a fungus...sterility is not something they typically thrive on.
Oli:
Why would you treat growing mushrooms that you're going to take for psychedelic purposes differently to mushrooms you're growing to put in omlettes? That seems a bit ludicrous.
onewheelwizzard:
Actually I expect that putting psychedelic mushrooms into an omlette would be a really delicious idea! I do know that they're significantly easier to eat fresh to begin with.
I'm personally not an expert on mushroom cultivation but from what I understand, mushroom mycelium is easily contaminated by bacteria that feed on it. Sterilization is an important first step to cultivating mushrooms and it's the hardest step by far. Contamination of the mycelium means no mushroom fruiting. I expect that if you just put spores into a box of dirt, you'd run a very high risk of failure.
In other news, I've been outraged over our country's drug policy for a while but I've never seen the idiocy concentrated as strongly as it is here:
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/dll/mdma_scheduling_history.htm
The story of how MDMA became illegal. It's shockingly ridiculous. If you're not outraged, you don't understand what's at stake and what kind of dirty tricks had to be pulled in order to undermine the medical establishment.
ViolentDove:
Generally, obtaining fruiting bodies (mushrooms) from mycelium also requires fairly specific temperatures and humidity, which is why some methods use an enclosed container- this increases humidity. And sterilisation/aseptic inoculation is always a good idea, as there's always competition from other fungi and bacteria for the substrate you're growing on.
The more enjoyable way to do it is to go picking yourself with friends, but you need to make bloody sure that you know what you're doing. Eating the wrong type of 'shroom can kill you. Personally, I don't eat anything, psychadelic or otherwise, until I've taken a decent spore print, and keyed it out with an ID book.
dennis:
--- Quote from: onewheelwizzard on 17 Jun 2008, 11:18 ---Actually I expect that putting psychedelic mushrooms into an omlette would be a really delicious idea! I do know that they're significantly easier to eat fresh to begin with.
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The heat would probably denature the active compounds.
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