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a pack of wolves:
Last time I heard Dawkins attempting to debate anyone he was shrilly demanding John Humphries demand the same kind of proof of the existence of god from religious figures as the proof he'd demand from a politician to back up their statements. Then he started ranting about truth and how they were denying it. Talk about missing the point, and I was appalled a supposed scientist and athiest could believe in the idea of some fundamental, absolute truth that could be definitely proved one way or another. He sounded far more ridiculous and less open to reason and debate than most of the religious leaders you get on The Today Programme.

I've just started Raoul Vaneigem's ' The Revolution of Everyday Life'. After that it'll probably be Hardt & Negri's 'Empire' and Kropotkin's 'Fields, Factories And Workshops Tomorrow' as well as Pauline Hopkins' 'Of One Blood' since I need to read that one soon for an essay. I thought I might finally give Baudrillard's 'Simulacra And Simulation' a shot after that, and maybe get something by Bob Black since I've only ever read a short pamphlet by him but it was a lot of fun. I think I'll read Andrey Kurkov's 'The President's Last Love' at the same time as Vaneigem as well, it'll be nice to read a contemporary novel for once.

Jimmy the Squid:
Well, touche?

Jackie Blue:

--- Quote from: a pack of wolves on 08 Jun 2008, 03:29 ---He sounded far more ridiculous and less open to reason and debate

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And this is another of the arguments against Dawkins, is that while he extolls us to be skeptical and debate, his own version of atheism is incredibly dogmatic.  There's not much wiggle-room to explain it; it's brazen hypocrisy.

jimbunny:

--- Quote from: KharBevNor ---also Lila, the 'sequel', as it were, to Zen And The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, which apparently enters into the metaphysics of Pirsig's philosophy of quality, which is already brilliant.
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I had a friend who read Lila. We both had really liked Zen...his take on Lila was that Pirsig took back just about everything he said in Zen. It rather upset my friend. I'd be interested in hearing what you think of it.

Lines:
Since I'm done with uni and everything, I'll just read the stuff I've been meaning to read for the past few years, like Vonnegut. I have a list of books, I just need to find it or get lost in a library.

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