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Dean Koontz
Postino:
--- Quote from: karl gambolputty... on 16 Jul 2008, 06:41 ---
Is it irony that you used about 300 words too many to denounce a man for writing too much?
I will absolutely concede that King is no Pynchon. He's written some awful books, but to say he's not a 'Real Author' at all is patent nonsense. So what if he entertains? So what if he writes a book every 6 months? Hell, if you're to tie the rate at which an author writes to his validity as an author, then would you call Wodehouse a hack?
I get the point you're trying to make, I make it all the time when I'm yelling about music. But at the end of the day, you don't get to call King a non-author any more than I get to call Motley Crue non-musicians. And you sure as hell don't get to say he writes only for the money.
Besides, if Stephen King were a band he'd clearly be the Stones.
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Couple of points to make here. First thank you for misquoting me, nothing makes a man feel better than when he is misquoted. Now a couple of points to clear up. First of all, I'm not criticizing King, Koontz and etc for writing to much, I am criticizing them for writing badly. I merely point out the writing too much as a symptom that most of these people seem to share.
Secondly you can spout silly nonsense about what I can or can't do all day until you turn blue in the face and pass out, and its still not gonna change how I conduct myself or what I say.
Thirdly since you seem to have trouble reading I should perhaps clarify, I at no time stipulated that the only reason that King and Co. wrote was for money, I don't presume to know what motive fuels them to write the dross that they do, I simply can identify the finished product for what it is.
Now I do have to agree with one point you and Tom have made and that is that reading Steven King is certainly no crime, sometime one does just want a "hamburger". The crime in my eyes are the people who come to believe hamburgers are steak, instead of a cheap substitute. (That really is a terrible metaphor Tom.)
Vendetagainst:
so um, what do you consider steak?
tomselleck69:
--- Quote from: Postino on 16 Jul 2008, 16:11 ---Now I do have to agree with one point you and Tom have made and that is that reading Steven King is certainly no crime, sometime one does just want a "hamburger". The crime in my eyes are the people who come to believe hamburgers are steak, instead of a cheap substitute. (That really is a terrible metaphor Tom.)
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Agreed. Nothing worse than someone who accepts Oprah's book club as the canon of western literature.
I was in the mood for non-metaphorical beef when I wrote that, but it is at least as apt as it is horrible/clunky/obvious/etc.
wesleyv:
I only read "tick tock" (if you read what it's about it should already become appararent that's it's prety bad)
and "door to december" which is totally cool and definitely recommended to koontz fans.
I also bought odd thomas a year ago but I never read books in the order I buy them so who knows when I'll end up picking it up.
idiosyncratic:
While though there has been some level of animosity toward Koontz (and apparently King as well) I would like to agree with the majority of this thread and state that sometimes a Koontz novel can be nice. I don't particularly enjoy the majority of the works that are produced by those two authors, but I don't think that they can be considered anything other than authors. Their target audience and creative process are just different than others. It irks me when people make large, elaborate claims based solely on a matter of taste.
My personal experience with novels by these two authors is rather limited. As I said before they are not my favorite. I really enjoyed Lightning by Koontz and Salem's Lot by King though.
Postscript.
Tomselleck, even though your metaphor was slightly bad, I certainly enjoyed it. It made me smile, and sometimes I do want a hamburger instead of steak. ;) I also agree with the comments on things like Oprah's book club. *wrinkles nose* I don't think I need to say anymore on that subject.
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