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RedLion:
No, it would mean a revolution.

Tom:

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--- Quote from: est on 17 Jul 2008, 18:13 ---I don't understand people who say "oh god, I'm moving out of this country" instead of "oh god, me and my non-idiotic friends are gonna try to do something about these morons shitting up our country"

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Ha. Your voting system is so unbelievably fucked up I don't blame people...

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Um, yeah Australia has such a simple system when to compared to the US'

Vendetagainst:

--- Quote from: Fenriswolf on 17 Jul 2008, 23:16 ---
Ha. Your voting system is so unbelievably fucked up I don't blame people... plus the idea of living in a place with a health system like the US kind of makes me want to run screaming from the room. Hell, I'm loathe to even visit the US the politics are so scary - I can hardly blame people for wanting to leave someone they didn't choose to be born.

In NZ the morning after pill is OTC. When my partner's ex visited him in the US and needed it she had to go to the doctor and get a fucking internal exam to get it. Fuck that. Fuck that fuck that fuck that

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Yeah, the Electoral College is a little screwy *cough*. The health care system really isn't that bad, though. In certain situations it's horrible, but if you, say, had your arm chopped off in some freak accident you could be worked on overnight without any reference to your health care. It's pretty weird, because at the same time somebody could be dying slowly of something and be expected to come up with thirty grand to save their lives. I guess Americans just like urgency. However in America there is barely a wait time for any medical treatment, as opposed to Canada where "Studies by the Commonwealth Fund found that 57% of Canadians reported waiting 4 weeks or more to see a specialist; 24% of Canadians waited 4 hours or more in the emergency room.".
I think that health care should be improved, of course, but I don't think the solution is to make the same mistakes that other people are making.

jhocking:
It's mostly a load of crap people who say Canada is unusual in how long you have to wait for medical attention. I don't know when the last time you were at a doctor was, but the earliest appointments you can make are always like a month away, and wait times in the ER are pretty routine.

As you point out, it's all about triage; if you are in the middle of cardiac arrest then they'll take care of you stat (gotta use the lingo,) but someone with a broken wrist might have to wait hours.

jhocking:
man these avatars keep confusing me. It's awesome.

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