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HHS Moves to Define Contraception as Abortion
Nodaisho:
--- Quote from: BrittanyMarie on 18 Jul 2008, 20:47 ---okaynegativenellyhere technically both sperm and eggs have only half the chromosomes needed to become a baby, so not even under this ridiculousness would it count as abortion. I would hope the conservatives wouldn't slide THAT far down the slippery slope.
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The argument could be made for it being abortion for a couple capable of having children to not do so, though, they have both the sources of chromosones at the ready, they are having sex, but not having babies. However, I am pretty sure that nobody is going to be that stupid. Well, I am sure some people are stupid enough, but they would be shouted down by their associates.
Vendetagainst:
--- Quote from: ruyi on 20 Jul 2008, 01:05 ---
--- Quote from: RedLion on 19 Jul 2008, 22:50 ---To me there's a difference between the death of a sentient and non-sentient being. That's why I largely have no problem with abortions during the first trimester, let alone with contraceptives. During that stage it's really not developed to the point where it can be scientifically described as a sentient being.
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Where do you draw the line for the mentally handicapped?
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you may be confusing sentience with sapience
ruyi:
--- Quote from: Vendetagainst on 20 Jul 2008, 19:02 ---
--- Quote from: ruyi on 20 Jul 2008, 01:05 ---
--- Quote from: RedLion on 19 Jul 2008, 22:50 ---To me there's a difference between the death of a sentient and non-sentient being. That's why I largely have no problem with abortions during the first trimester, let alone with contraceptives. During that stage it's really not developed to the point where it can be scientifically described as a sentient being.
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Where do you draw the line for the mentally handicapped?
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you may be confusing sentience with sapience
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You're right, I was. In that case, RedLion's stance sounds like a vegetarian's.
RedLion:
Hey man. I like eating other animals. And I have no moral qualms with it, so long as I don't have to do the killing. I can justify it by saying that it's natural to eat other species. If, however, I had to kill the cow, or the pig, or even the chicken, I wouldn't be able to.
ruyi:
Does that mean you are okay with abortions in the second and third trimesters then? I mean, you are not the one having them.
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