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HHS Moves to Define Contraception as Abortion
Johnny C:
I don't feel comfortable saying that this child or that child shouldn't have been born at all because then we get a step closer to Gattaca.
RedLion:
I'm not saying that particular children should or shouldn't be born. I'm saying that, generally speaking, all babies just can't be born. It's not scientifically possible, for one, but it's also in some cases just not responsible. Yeah--I think that in some cases it's more responsible to have an abortion than to bring a child into a horrific situation that won't allow it to have a "life" in any sense of the word other than physically existing.
ruyi:
The thing is, the decisions people will make in the real world will necessarily be about particular children. In the end, does anyone really have the authority to judge that a person's life is so worthless that it would have been better that they were aborted?
I believe fetuses should not be aborted unless the mother's life is in danger. However, I also don't think I have the authority to force any woman to endure pregnancy and childbirth and all the social/emotional/financial consequences of it.
Of course we don't want women to have abortions as a form of birth control. Of course we don't want women to have to resort to unsafe, illegal abortions. We all want fewer abortions in the world, and making abortion illegal is not the way to do it. Instead, we should strive to facilitate options that prevent abortions - namely, contraception and adoption.
waterloosunset:
Welcome to the Republican Express! Next stop, the Stone Age!
IronOxide:
The thought of abortion leaves a bad taste in my mouth. It is a very invasive procedure that some people have taken to using instead of practicing safe sex. However, it has become a valuable tool in emergency family planning. This is largely fault of the medical "establishment" and the pressure from the "pro-life" lobby. In fact, actions like these will and do greatly increase the amount of abortions carried out in this country.
Perhaps the more important question to ask is why would we be allowed a hack system of right wing wingnuts tell us what we can and cannot do with our bodies? Why are our moral decisions being made by groups that are twice as conservative as most of the nation? The answer is that our health care system is broken. We are constantly at the will of a writhing, disgusting mass of lobbyists and "scientists" that can halt the progress of any major development. In fact, the pro-life lobby shares many views (and members) with organizations that have constantly stalled the development of effective HPV and HIV treatments, contributing to the deaths of literally millions of people. All of this under the guise that if sex is safer, people won't be safe during it. It is roughly on the same level of logic of those who say that having seatbelts in cars make people drive unsafely. The FDA does not reject drugs because they are unsafe. They reject drugs with either not enough money backing them or where somebody says the treatment is immoral. The result is that we are denied essential treatment, leaving us to inferior and less safe methods.
And that's what Abortion is, an inferior and unsafe method. We have scheduled birth control that is 99% effective, on top of that, we have emergency contraception that can be very effective, but the main problem is that if we run out of these treatments, we will have to go back to an outdated, dangerous procedure. It is like saying that people should know not to get too close to people with meningitis, so instead of providing antibiotics to the people who have it, they should just drill a hole or two in their head to relieve the pressure. It's your fault, so safety be damned. I am sick of cases of our personal health being ruled by unqualified imbeciles that cannot protect us, so they choose instead to restrict us.
Come on, we're better than this. We just have to be.
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