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patriotism/nationalism
Liz:
Well aren't you special.
Vendetagainst:
--- Quote from: RedLion on 01 Aug 2008, 13:45 ---Nope. American.
Although my ancestry is about 45% French, and I'm descended from Charlemagne.
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I'm descended from Charlemagne too! So that makes us nominally related!
benji:
If you think about it mathematically, it would be almost impossible to find someone alive today of European descent who wasn't descended from Charlemagne.
Vendetagainst:
yes, but how many of them know they are? :evil:
snalin:
--- Quote from: Eris on 31 Jul 2008, 18:27 ---We are trying to work about fixing what we did. Everyone is taught in high school (hell, probably primary school) about the Stolen Generations, so it's not as if we're ignoring it. This apology has taken a long time to come about, a lot longer than it should, but it's showing that we're willing to say we did something wrong. You lost respect for a country that did something wrong in the past? What about the British, do you have no respect for them because of all the "colonising" they did? What about Israel when the videos came out showing soldiers breaking children's arms? What about Germany and that whole holocaust thing?
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I said I lost respect for Australia's history. It's great with the apology and all, but I'm reacting to the bunch of people saying that the apology wasn't needed. And Britain was a dick head nation in the past. And Israel was the worst idča ever. The point here is that everyone can change. I never meant any offence, I just reacted to the whole "A free society that for the last few generations hasn't done anything particularly bad", since this lasted into the sixties. Sorry, let's get back on topic, shall we? My bad.
--- Quote from: RedLion on 01 Aug 2008, 13:33 ---Oh, yeah, I forgot. I can never forgive my country for being the only nation that has ever used the atomic bomb--TWICE--both times on areas of high and dense civilian population with little to no military value, then having the audacity to spent the next 60 years telling anyone it doesn't like that they can't be allowed to develop nuclear technology.
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Well, since the American government was so bitchy about getting a complete surrender, this was the best thing they could come up with. If the war had gone on... But it was still not very fucking nice. I think nationalism was quite important on both sides. USA wanted revenge for Pearl Harbour. Unlimited revenge. And Japan was sure that any surrender would lead to a total destruction of their culture and traditions. These are both cases were nationalism was used by governments to excuse hundreds of thousands of deaths. (woho, a bit of topic!)
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