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KharBevNor:
Distinct cultures? Come off it please. If America had a hundred  distinct cultures it would not be a nation, and any nationalism or patriotism would make no sense. Just because people in different parts of a country drink different beer and pronounce bath differently doesn't mean they're distinct cultures. Besides which, you know fucking nothing of what I've been 'spoonfed' of America, and are in fact just cleaving to a handy stereotype which handily allows you to ignore everything I say.

Fuck yeah!

Trollstormur:
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Vendetagainst:

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Doesn't that put us on equal footing? And anyway, I am a moderately well-informed person who still knows only the simple fundamentals of many other nations, why should I expect somebody who lives five thousand miles from me to know as much about my life as I do? And I think you're just intentionally being a dick when you take what Ozy said and turn it into something literal. The US is nearly 10 million square kilometers, is it really that hard to imagine that there are many, many regional variations?

öde:
So what? The UK has a huge amount of 'regional variations' too. America is America, you pay for things in dollars, you get thanksgiving and christmas off, you go wild on spring break if you're in college, you drink coffee, eat bagels, waffles, donuts and pancakes, shop in places that could contain villages...

RedLion:

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Yeah, and the Turkish immigrants in Germany aren't subjected to fierce and occasionally violent racism, nor the Algerians in France, nor Moroccans in Spain, nor the Pakistanis in Britain...come the fuck off it. You're as full of shit as anyone. Migrant workers (i.e., Muslims and Eastern Europeans) are treated with the same ammout of institutionalized disdain and racism in Western Europe as they are in America, and at least here the Hispanics usually assimilate into the wider culture of the country. The same isn't true for, say, the Pakistanis in England at all. They're distinct and separate and often hate the country they find themselves in. Its European countries who have been debating banning the building of mosques and minarets, and France who ruled that a woman couldn't be a citizen because she wore a Burka. Note that I actually think that ruling was semi-smart; but don't tell me Europe isn't just as racist, if not more, than America. You're not more an enlightened society than we are.

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