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Alex C:
Honestly, I hate the subtlety tree with the burning heat of a thousand suns for anything but PvP. You don't need Camoflauge or MoD to sneak up on mobs, Improved Sap doesn't even exist anymore, Hemo takes a LOT of fiddling to compete with Sinister Strike and daggers are kinda trashy these days so I'm not fond of Improved Ambush or Opportunity. There's things to like about the Subtlety tree, (Initiative and Preparation are dead sexy talents) but they're all buried at least 10 points down into the tree and even then I doubt I'd give up Combat Potency or Mutilate unless I was really hardcore about pvp utility. There's really nothing wrong with Nótt's build that shooting straight for Lethatlity won't fix.

Improve Expose Armor is OK in pvp builds, but for some dumb reason Blizzard refuses to let it stack with the warrior ability Sunder Armor. Even worse, dropping an Improved Expose Armor on a mob actually forbids the warrior from using Sunder Armor on it to build threat, which is a great way of really pissing off your tank.

clockworkjames:

--- Quote from: Whipstitch on 26 Sep 2008, 19:43 ---Improve Expose Armor is OK in pvp builds, but for some dumb reason Blizzard refuses to let it stack with the warrior ability Sunder Armor. Even worse, dropping an Improved Expose Armor on a mob actually forbids the warrior from using Sunder Armor on it to build threat, which is a great way of really pissing off your tank, then he drops aggro to you and you die.

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Fix'ed.

And also for ó you can do ctrl+alt+o methinks...

I though subtlety was strictly PvP? But I dunno as I never played a rogue past 19. Jamés on Dunemaul EU I think.

Yakob:
Update: I repecced very shortly after my last post to get to the bottom of combat.

I'm with Whipstitch, subtlety is the bane of my existence.

Alex C:
Rogue talents are pretty easy, really; it's hard to go wrong with a heavy combat spec and dipping into assassination for Relentless Strikes and Lethality. After that, it's really just a matter of hitting max level and then changing your spec to match whatever is dropping for you. For example, back when I still mained a rogue, I was a bigger fan of using maces/swords/fists and Sinister Strike than I was of using daggers and Backstab, but with the right mix of Combat talents, you can make them all do pretty similar damage, even if Backstab is kind of a pain in the ass compared to Sinister Strike during solo play. Pre-BC, I actually ended up with Combat Daggers as my primary simply because the Perdition's Blade and Core Hound Tooth both dropped for me relatively quickly.

clockworkjames:
I got a new purple http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37597

:/ Not too good for a 2h mace spec warrior... suppose I could use it to tank or something... Everyone passed it.

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