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Alex C:
Being an asshole can work out well, but it still makes you an asshole.
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--- Quote from: torontoguy2k8 on 05 Nov 2009, 22:21 ---Besides, there's a group on my server dedicated to doing old world content and they do BT, Hyjal, and Sunwell every week at midnight, so it's no skin off my back to tag along and get free loots :P
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...loot YOU don't need because YOU are the one wearing tier 6/heirloom everything already. more for me then!!
<3 old world raiding with people who are mostly 80. even though i do feel like i'm being carried through it sometimes. :|
alex, we were actually talking about my progression, not his. and i am not the sort of person who is going to see all the latest content anytime soon. i would like to, but i just don't have the time to devote to getting geared enough/leveling quickly, so i'm not going to get much further than bt/sunwell. but that's alright, since i'm still fairly new to raiding and would like to get better at it before i move to the harder stuff so that people don't yell at me and call me a fucking noob. i think this is sensible.
clockworkjames:
I don't think many of you grasped what I was saying, I stated pretty clearly there is a way to say anything.
I don't yell at people like a prick for no reason or often, I tell them sternly what to do, what they are doing wrong etc. etc. because it works. If you DO get all butthurt, you are the kind of person who won't be dancing their way towards grand crusader any time soon, which is fine for casual/slacker people who still do naxx for raiding gear short of unique stuff for specific gear sets.
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with doing that, but don't get judgemental over how a guild who has done it to death, and moved on to current harder content operates whether it be how they talk on vent or treat members, you think non set 245's come easy? You tolerate people stepping out of line constantly thinking they know better while doing 2k dps and causing wipes? Go ahead, but be prepared to stay in welfares/badgegear for that much longer.
And getting close to the kill then wiping doesn't piss me off or make me rage, I see it as being close to success and when everyone is doing what they are supposed to, doing well giving 100% and failing just short it makes me smile becuse it is a challenge and the game is still a challenge.
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I think pretty much everyone was talking about things in general, not specifically to you. Some people agree, some disagree.
Alex C:
--- Quote from: clockworkjames on 06 Nov 2009, 11:50 ---You tolerate people stepping out of line constantly thinking they know better while doing 2k dps and causing wipes? Go ahead, but be prepared to stay in welfares/badgegear for that much longer.
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There's a difference between letting people slack and being rude. I don't tolerate taking shit from other players nor do I invite people who can't do their jobs. I don't see why I should have to do either. If they have a suggestion, a fix, or can do better by bringing someone else other than me, fine. But the marine corps parody put up or shut up posturing and chest pounding present in many guilds is quite frankly ridiculous and does more harm than good. I think it's no coincidence that in my experience such an attitude is more commonly found in short lived second tier guilds than the ones that end up functioning well over the long haul. You should only break down someone's performance if you think you can build something with it. If you don't think you can do that without spewing a half gallon of bile perhaps it's just best to keep your mouth shut and part ways. Simple.
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