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Alex C:
I mean, really, we did 10 man hard mode princes and cleared it with a single warlock as ranged deeps. The game is easy. At this point, I really just want to get the gear because I already know how to do all of this shit and I'm tired of rotating in a new guy who has to learn everything every week because people don't show up.

Dazed:
10 mans are stupid easy? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I personally think 10 man LK/Sind are harder than 25, at least in terms of the gear you're supposed to have doing them (i.e. not 25 man hardmode raiders stomping all over 10 man content).

As to you having to deal with more morons, and just wanting the gear, well, that's what you signed up for doing 25 man raiding, and it's also one of the main arguments for equalizing gear across 10s and 25s (and why I prefer 10s). I don't think dumbing down the game even more is the right way to go, given how relatively easy (as you pointed out) it already is.

EDIT: by the way, I do understand your frustration. I was a 40-man raider for a long time before I was a 25-man raider for a long time before I was a 10-man raider. I hate carrying bad players in 25s, and constantly dealing the burnout of myself and my friends. I highly recommend finding a group of solid/friendly/drama-free dudes and ladies, and going off and playing casually/raiding 10s/pvping/fucking around in general until cat, and then on throughout. It's a lot more fun and less frustrating.

Lines:
I think that's why I never did many 25/40-man raids. I just think it's easier to fix a problem with a bad player in a 10 man because then you know exactly who it is that's messing up and you can either tell them how to fix it or just straight up replace them. But then again, I just get lost in the mob in 25-man raids. I know the gear is better, but I don't really care about the gear, I care about the experience of running the instance.

Alex C:
I'm up to 1275 Armor Penetration now. That's a pretty damn nice number for a rogue, since unlike druids only 2 of our set pieces actually have ArPen and we don't get quite as much stats out of our weapons as fury warriors.

clockworkjames:
Rogues can do decent dps with no arp, warriors need over 80% for it to be competative.

But then it just becomes fucking retarded numbers.

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