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Josefbugman:
Nope, I stopped prior to it. Mainly because I had stopped playing for a couple of months and have just realised I found Wrath unsatisying as an experience. I mean I am sure it was cool, but I can never be bothered to download all the additionals you need to raid and rapidly got bored of all the various dailies. It seemed like I was acquiring gear, weapons and pets for no other reason than "they were there" and I just didn't think it was worth my time.

imagist42:

--- Quote from: clockworkjames on 13 Dec 2010, 23:40 ---It costs blizz money to make authenticators, blizzard is a company, companies are made to make money, giving it away free would result in a loss of money, why lose money when you can make money?

You need to see it from their point of view, it's like people who complain about how they pay £8 a month to play a game and they don't like something about it. You are not paying blizzard to make the game you want to play, you are paying blizzard to be allowed to play THEIR game. WoW seems to attract alot of people with an unwarranted sense of self entitlement and the logic about it is never sound.

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I can kind of see what they're saying, though. You are paying Blizzard to play their game, right? So shouldn't that cost include the ability to continue playing their game, no matter what? I.e., the tools to prevent your account from being stolen out from under your feet? This is kind of a moot point with the free phone application, but then again there may be people who (gasp) don't have cell phones. At least not ones that will actually accept that software. I'm really not sure how the logistics would work out, but perhaps there should be more free options to serve this function than "here, have a piece of code that, if you accidentally remove by updating your phone, will be a pain in the ass to work around."

Boro_Bandito:
Jesus I swear I'm not trying to act like a self-entitled prick, Christ. At least I'm not like pirating the game and playing it on one of those free servers that are incredibly easy to find. And really just the thing that i was complaining about is that the free version wasn't available from the start, only the 10 dollar keychain, and now that its free I'm of course using it, I just feel like they're already charging 15 dollars a month per person, I just sort of feel like as much security as they can manage at a cost effective solution for playing their program should've been part of that from the start, which is the dial-in authenticator now.

Part of this is that I'm being grumbly because of the amount of ways they just want people to pay. 15 dollars a month for access, 40 dollars per expansion pack, numerous optional services for transferring characters, changing names/factions etc., which yes I realize are entirely optional but these are hardly micro-transactions, 25 bucks per character move for instance. That all is fine, i just feel like account security shouldn't be an optional paid service like changing your orc to a goblin.

I realize that they are a business, but businesses also run off of things like customer service, which I suppose you could argue that Blizzard is large enough and has enough players to make one person's complaint meaningless, but I mean, I work for a large, soulless, retail company that sells video games and they actually do try and come up with better ways for taking care of the customer that we don't charge extra for, for instance recent improvements to tracking customers information in case of lost receipts, better ways for tracking individual employee customer experience ratings, improvements to our loyalty program (which for the most part are actual improvements).

And obviously Blizzard is doing this too, since there is now a free version of extra account security an option, which I was never complaining about. What I was complaining about was before, when you're only option was to pay an extra 10 dollars on top of what your were already paying to the service. Now that they have the free service they obviously saw it as something they could implement cheaply and effectively, and I respect as a company for doing it. But up until this point I just opted out of paying the extra money as a discerning customer, which was my choice.

Also Linds the phone I have is just a normal cell phone, not a smart phone, so at least i don't have to worry about an update deleting my information, its just the dial-in authenticator.

Alex C:
I didn't think you had an entitlement issue, really. I just wanted to splash a li'l water on the "Authenticators are being used against us!" rhetoric that's getting pretty common in some quarters even if it isn't entirely fair.

cyro:

--- Quote from: Josefbugman on 14 Dec 2010, 01:38 ---Anyone else just decided that Cata was the last straw and stopped playing?

Because I've been looking over some of the stuff and just getting so terminally bored with WoW, I can't be bothered to kill 18 boars to pick up their arses. That and the fact that I can't be bothered with the whole "storyline" of the cataclysm. I am actually sure that 12 year olds could come up with better and more engrossing storylines than what blizzard is putting out atm.

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Actually, I found most of the Cata stuff quite fun. That said Uldum is nothing but injokes, popculture references and lolnazis! (Some of which is actually kinda funny, they have a Katamari level with a giant fireball picking up Gnomes.)

So... yeah.

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