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Alex C:
--- Quote from: est on 09 Dec 2008, 00:36 ---I guess that just like everything else the difficulty was overstated because most guilds are full of people who suck. My EQ guild found this out when we'd continually do things that people said required X people with say, 2/3 of X people. It was a lot of fun.
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Yep. And while I hate to use such ugly slang myself, WoW has a lot of raid encounters filled with what many people like to term "retard checks," situations in which multiple people or even the entire raid can suffer immense damage due to the inability of a single member to perform an extremely simple task. Onyxia has a few of them: Don't stand too close to anyone else in Phase 2 (she spits fireballs at people randomly and they can damage more than one person) and don't stand behind her in Phase 1 or 3 (she hits you with her tail, which can send you flying into a clutch of whelp-spawning eggs ala Leeroy Jenkins; this is pretty much always a wipe) and don't stand on the cracks in Phase 3, because they shoot lava. Everything else is simply a matter of watching your aggro.
Alex C:
Oh, god, Hakkar.
My guild was the number 3 guild on my server in terms of progression, so our members were poached by the top guild fairly regularly (I was actually approached once or twice despite being a dps class). This led to us running ZG for fun, shoulder enchants and to test new recruits despite the fact that many of us were overgeared for ZG when it came out. The painful bit is when we'd try out a potential off-tank recruit and the dumb bastard would forget to burn his Intimidating Shout, leading to Hakkar Mind Controlling him and proceeding to fear a quarter of the damned raid, leading to a lack of heals and problems wrangling the Sons of Hakkar to get the damned poison cloud up etc, etc. Considering how much we warned people that burning Intimidating Shout was a non-negotiable requirement, I damn near ground my teeth down to the gums every time someone forgot.
PizzaSHARK:
--- Quote from: Jeans on 09 Dec 2008, 11:49 ---I was a raid leader when we were tearing through Zul'Gurub the first couple of months after it hit. My biggest obstacle was that we were not a raiding guild, but rather a social guild with a little raiding on the side, so the core criteria for us raiding at all was that everyone was to be allowed access to the raids as long as they signed up in time, we would never discriminate on gear or skill. I wanted to kick people out of the raid so badly when we were wiping four or five times on Hakkar because one or two doorknobs refused to understand the basic idea of the blood drain event he does, even after explaining to them time and time again what they are supposed to do (for those of you who haven't done this boss, it literally means running into a cloud of gas).
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Sounds familiar.
Being in an FnF guild (that actually is able to put together a couple of fiercely competent 10-man raid groups), it just reinforces my belief in that you should never do business (raiding) with friends.
Covetous:
But that's the only fun part with wow! But then again me and my friends were on the same level. Most of them had tried out hard core guilds. So we could put together a good raid and make progress quite well and still have a good time, trashtalking eachother and wipeing just for the fun of it (miss direct is a bad thing. <_<)
PizzaSHARK:
Oh, I wipe raids routinely just because I can. Perk of being a pally, I guess. Just DI the main tank and watch the boss run around and wafflestomp the raid. You, of course, are already dead, and no repair costs, either.
I rarely raid, and when I do, I usually do it out of the guild; the couple of competent in-guild groups very rarely need me (and I won't make them force someone else to sit out since I only raid when the mood strikes me, not consistently), and the remainder are... a bit lacking in the gameplay department, though they're all great people to shoot the shit with.
I do plenty of PvP with the guild, though. Even the people that suck at the game are useful in battlegrounds as cannon fodder if nothing else ;)
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