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thegreatbuddha:
Settle down beavis.

Not everyone plays the game as a second job. Those of us that like having fun instead of doing calculus to optimize our toons don't enjoy being corrected on every talent point and itemizaions point, and those that do optimize every nitty gritty detail probably already read Tankadin, Elitist Jerks, etc.

PizzaSHARK:
It's really not hard to stay current on how to do your job properly.  The major stickied threads at Elitist Jerks and (usually) under your class forums on the official WoW boards are often very easy to understand and don't require you to do any math at all - it's all been done for you already.  Tankspot also has a wealth of information, but it's a little more difficult to find; I mostly use Tankspot for their Project Marmot videos these days to help teach new people how they can expect a raid fight to proceed.

I wouldn't classify my WoW gameplay as a second job; if it was that way, I'd be logging in every single day to do my dailies and all kinds of other crap like some folks on my server (and a handful in my guild.)  On the contrary, there are entire weeks where I may not play at all, or at most just log in to fiddle with my auctions.

I've never understood the viewpoint that you have to be a supernerd in order to be good at the game.  It makes no sense at all.

est:
So I got a few equipment upgrades in quick succession yesterday taking me from an "eh, doing alright" status in the area that I am currently (Zangarmarsh) to being a meatgrinder again.  I got my first gem-slot item as the result of a quest (three slot red-blue-yellow. I put in a +12 str red, a +21 sta blue and a +12 to hit yellow).  The socket bonus was +4 str and it had 16str/22sta/15crit on it naturally, so I was quite pleased with it.  I also put some heavy knothide onto it for the extra stamina boost because even though I'm treating sta as a dump stat it's about the only thing I could add to it at the moment.  After that I got a new belt with 15 hit rating (I think) and find that with all the extra +hit I am generating a lot more rage (who'd have thunk it, right?) due to less misses.  I am now swimming in rage and dumping using HS a lot - Charge, Vic, HS, BT, HS, (repeat as req) then Exe if needed.

Thinking about doing some dungeons/instance runs with some PUGs or at least trying to convince a high-level mate to train me in what I should be doing in them.  Keep looking at some of the gear I could be getting in these dungeons and thinking that it would be kind of nice.  I've run a few instances one other chars around level 20-30 and they were fun-ish, but I guess I've been fairly solo-focused for so long it's hard to get out of that mindset.

edit: oh man, I just realised that I was getting a little rage-starved before the latest upgrades mainly due to removing a few points from "Unbridled Wrath" last week in a re-spec experiment.  Now that I am generating enough rage again I guess the experiment has worked?  Will see how it goes.

Also, I am guessing that if I want to go into dungeons I'd re-spec yet again to go more heavily into Imp Whirlwind/Berserker stance so I can just stay in Berzerker stance to lessen the threat and use WW?  Guessing I'd charge less as DPS in instances and technically Enrage would become less useful, as I should not really be getting hit enough to activate it in a useful way.  So the 7 pts in Blood Craze, Piercing Howl & Enrage would go out in favour of 2/2 Imp WW and 5/5 Imp Berzerker Stance?

masquerade:
A hypothetical situation, in the midst of class discussion/argument.

Say you and your best friends form a guild on a server away from your mains to simply play together, since one of you has moved very far away and hanging out in real time is no longer possible. It is agreed that you are all officers with equal power, and that you are the core of the guild. Adding new members is not necessarily the goal.
Say you, as one of the friends, are not on as much as the others, because you have school and work full time, in addition to a significant other and attempting to build a social life in a state halfway across the country. After a week and a half or so, you log on for some serious play time because you finally have a night that's free and clear of obligations. Upon finally getting in [because the other two are the smart ones who chose a nearly full realm to start on, which is now a locked realm], you find that you've been demoted. You have no power within the guild. One of the others signs on, and you ask them why. They say that it's because the other members [aka strangers] have been complaining about you never being on and having more power than them. Would you be upset? Do you think it's understandable to be upset? Finally, would you think that your best friend kicking you out of the guild would be a viable reaction to you being upset?

est:
I would think it would be normal to be upset, as it was supposed to be a guild of friends.  Kicking you out of the guild would be a fucked thing to do.  I'd feel pretty shit that the best friend had chosen the feelings/thoughts of some strangers over me, and would tell him so on the phone (ie: not in-game) to let him know that this is an action that has real-world repercussions, not just some in-game bullshit.

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