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clockworkjames:
--- Quote from: Covetous on 17 Feb 2009, 01:22 ---My paladin finally turned 80 yesterday (CET time). Horay for him!
Now is the question what gear and where it is. Turns out he's going protection again (guild need).
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Run HC's pug, shield from CoS, Pants from VH, Sword from UP, rep gloves from Kirin'Tor trink from normal HoL, ring from that place with the huuuuuuge dinosaur, belt from Azjol-Nerub, crafted boots and helm... some other junk and you're done.
If in doubt, tempered saronite crsfted stuff gets you def capped for not alot of gold.
Covetous:
--- Quote ---saronite crs[a]fted
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Ty for that. Shortens my search a little. Will most likely have most of that stuff made.
clockworkjames:
trink from normal HoL
important one, also http://www.wowhead.com/?item=36984 until you can do HC UP easily (the Gauntlet can be a bitch)
est:
So so, I just thought I'd report that I am enjoying the Prot respec so far. With a couple of cheap AH purchases plus a relatively expensive Crystalblade of the Draenei I rejigged my gear enough to give me another ~2k hp, so that coupled with the higher armour level leaves me feeling far less fragile. My DPS has taken a hit, but not as big a hit as I expected it to. I have a feeling I am still straddling between Fury and Prot gear at the moment, and to be honest I am a-ok with that because I still need decent DPS while soloing.
I am still learning the flow of battle using the new skillset, but the overall feel is good. I'll generally throw something at one mob, then charge past a second mob toward a third if possible. Once they're all in range I'll Thunder Clap, Cleave, then by that point Revenge will maybe pop, so I'll hit that and play it by ear. Devastate a few times if the target isn't too squishy, Heroic Strike to dump Rage, Shield Bash to stun casters, Shield Slam if Sword and Board procs (or if I have Rage to burn) and Concussion Blow when I feel like smacking the crap out of people. If I have enough Rage at the start of the fight I'll usually also Shockwave. It feels like I have a bigger bag of tricks than when I was playing Fury, and I haven't even started getting to the point where I need to hit Last Stand yet.
I grouped with a Mage last night. He seemed kind of quiet and unsure of things, I got the impression that he was a young dude. I learned a little more from grouping with him, though. I was very quick to map Taunt to an easily-accessible hotkey, because he seemed to like mana burning. He would go OOM a lot, which shows me he was maybe trying a bit too hard. I have a feeling this was due to a lack of communication, because as I said, he was pretty quiet and I didn't really talk to him all that much either because we were just questing. In hindsight I probably should have told him that 3 mobs wasn't a big deal and that he didn't need to do quite so much as he thought. He could probably have stood back and cast Blizzard or some kind of AE fire spell and we'd have done fine. A couple of times he did some kind of knockback AE that would piss me off, as I would invariably be about to Thunder Clap at that same moment. Point is though, I think I am going to try to group a bit more even while questing, because that short time with a squishy party member to keep mobs off of taught me a bit more about managing aggro and good ways to keep mobs focused on myself rather than my team-mate. Will need to feel pretty confident with that sort of thing before I venture into instances.
clockworkjames:
--- Quote from: est on 17 Feb 2009, 14:58 ---Will need to feel pretty confident with that sort of thing before I venture into instances.
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Start now, seriously you need to tank asap. No point in starting at 80 so the sooner the better, I was tanking all outlands instances arms fury so there is no reason for a full prot warrior not to be able to do it regardless of skill or experience, it is honestly the only way you will get better as solo play is nothing like 5man or raid. Other than that try not to shockwave at the start of a fight, even if you have rage to burn because you will get rage starved from a TC/Cleave/Dev before they stop being stunned. You need to be getting hit to get rage, bottom line.
Rage is fucked anyway, http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14990466279&pageNo=1&sid=1#19
Good discussion on what it is from some person off tankspot. I have sick evasion with my new shield (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Hellscream&n=Melville hero's surrender, logged with it on) but this means until you get rage from dodges I am gonna be rage starved as you only get rage as
--- Quote ---Currently, the formula for rage intake is R = 2.5D/C, where C is 320.6 at level 80. That gives us 4 rage for a 500 point hit, 8 rage for a 1k hit, 47 rage for a 6k hit, and 156 rage for a 20k hit. This is where the main problem is. You're either on fumes or you're always full.
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which sucks for offtanks, 5mans and even fights where the MT only gets hit once every few seconds. It is not scalable for 5mans since you take tiny hits in comparison so you never really get over 50 rage and it sucks balls. 24 rage for a 3k hit? That's enough for 1 HS+devastate. Not enough when you only have 1 healer and most of the time you are getting hit for 300-400 dmg.
I pulled 1900dps on patchwerk 4 hours ago, when I trinked for his 5% enrage I got rage starved, like fully rage starved because he could not hit me at all. If it was not for vigilance on the bear next to me, I would not have so much of a threat header and it could have caused some major issues, maybe not a wipe but certainly some deaths and panic.
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