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Environmental Science Question
jhocking:
Just posted this in the computer forum, but it fits here too:
http://forums.questionablecontent.net/index.php/topic,20768.0.html
Chesire Cat:
--- Quote from: tommydski on 08 Aug 2008, 11:24 ---The Environment
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Ironically, part of the reason people dont/governments dont care is because of a lack of world unity/global identity. Why obey the Kyoto Accord if other countries dont etc. Basically people who hate Globalization indirectly hurt the environment by my logic. As well, Democracy is killing the environment because sacrificing industry or shifting funds to environmental programs usually dont net results until far down the road, but have immediate effects on constituents who naturally will vote for the other guy next time around.
Thlayli:
--- Quote from: Chesire Cat on 08 Aug 2008, 12:41 ---
--- Quote from: tommydski on 08 Aug 2008, 11:24 ---The Environment
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Ironically, part of the reason people dont/governments dont care is because of a lack of world unity/global identity. Why obey the Kyoto Accord if other countries dont etc. Basically people who hate Globalization indirectly hurt the environment by my logic. As well, Democracy is killing the environment because sacrificing industry or shifting funds to environmental programs usually dont net results until far down the road, but have immediate effects on constituents who naturally will vote for the other guy next time around.
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I realize I risk being kicked out by the admins for talking politics, but your post is nothing but politics. The Kyoto protocol is aimed at crippling American and other First World economies while creating loopholes so that heavily polluting, developing countries like China and India can continue raping the environment in the name of industry and GDP.
Chesire Cat:
No no no, what Im saying is because nationalism, environmental concerns are much more an Us vs Them thing. In reality we are all on the same earth, and if we fuck up one area it impacts us all. And generally people who are anti-globalization are very often the people who care the most about the environment. Kyoto is just a buzz word I used to relate my point.
pwhodges:
In 50 to 100 years time, the effects of major sea-level centres (e.g. London) being irrevocably flooded out* will lead to the start of a major break-down of the global society. The environment will kick back, and it will hurt. My 0.02p, but I won't be around to check.
* Venice will have gone first, but we'll just say "that's a shame"...
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