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Dimmukane:
Cuz then there's the whole technicality versus emotionality debate.  Yngwie can play several thousand notes a minute, but Stefan Koglek (Colour Haze) will play 6 notes over 3 measures, and affect me more than Yngwie.  Even technicality itself is debatable, because there's the speed-is-important vs. speed-is-not-important.  Quite a few of the drummers I know will place Sean Reinert and Danny Carey over Flo Maunier and Derek Roddy in terms of technical ability, but even more metalheads and crust punks I associate with will tell me otherwise.

MadassAlex:
Technicality is not a matter of opinion at all, it simply has different aspects and people value those aspects differently. Speed is one aspect of technicality, for instance, while harmonic complexity is another. And so on and so forth. A metal guitarist playing a blazing sextuplet run at 220 bpm isn't necessarily less or more technical than the jazz player playing a progression involving eight different basic chords, plus numerous variations.

It's a matter of valuing different aspects of technicality, unless you're in Atheist.

Not that I claim that music should be measured objectively, ever, because that defeats the purpose of the art-form right there.

Dimmukane:

--- Quote from: MadassAlex on 10 Oct 2008, 21:55 ---it simply has different aspects and people value those aspects differently.

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That's essentially what I was trying to say, yeah.  It will still cause lots of arguments.

KeepACoolin:

--- Quote from: Durin on 06 Aug 2008, 18:48 ---I did a search before making this and there was a thread but it was around 3 years old so I decided against necroposting.

It seems to be a mistake I've seen happening in this thread, and I think I need to put it here. OVERRATED DOESN'T MEAN BAD

So overrated bands.

Led Zeppelin
Foo Fighters (I tried to like them. Some of it's good some of it's just mediocre)
Mute Math
Liars (Jesus H I saw them open for Radiohead and wanted to stab my ears out)

I'm sure if pressed I could come up with more, but this is just music I have on my computer that I glanced through.

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I'm sure this topic has been beaten to death by now, but I just started up and Led Zeppelin is by far and away my favorite band.  I think that they are largely overlooked by people under thirty today, and especially people under twenty (which I am).  I only really started to listen to Zeppelin about four years ago and they blew me away.  To listen to their music late at night is frickin' TERRIFYING.  They are actually frightening.  The music is like a tidal wave.  It's so organic but so heavy and powerful.  John Bonham more or less inspired me to finally start playing drums again.  He is the best rock drummer in history. I know that Neil Peart and Mike Portnoy might have better technical chops (although I don't know about Peart, he's overrated), but Bonham invented being a rock drummer.  He was much more disciplined than Moon, with a better sound.  Moon may have been more complicated, but that's only because all he ever played was fills.  Bonham's fills were as good, Moon just wouldn't stop.  Bonzo took the basic idea of playing drums for a band (keep the rhythm, support the other instruments), but made it much more technical, heavier, and threw in fills that are still outstanding.  And he was capable of playing at ridiculous speeds with only one foot on the bass drum.  I don't think I need to be a Jimmy Page apologist, and Robert Plant is not my favorite singer, but John Paul Jones has gotten the shaft for too long: he was an amazing musician.  He was inventive and clever on some of their more experimental passages (a la The Lemon Song, Traveling Riverside Blues, Dazed and Confused) and was capable of following along with Page on a bass.  That in itself is impressive, but it was an awesome idea stylistically as well.  It made the guitar leads heavier and stronger, backing them up and underscoring them.  Zeppelin took the blues and made something incredible out of it.  I love the blues, but blues artists never had the same vitality and urgency that Zeppelin did.  They took old tropes and cliches from the blues and turned them into something brand new and gripping.

SrMeowMeow:
Led Zepplin and the Beatles are my big two. Led Zepplin just does nothing for me (ok, Stairway, yes, but besides that) and the Beatles, when I can think of them objectively instead of as a cultural building block, just don't really excite me. They have plenty of good songs but no distinctive sound that rocks me.

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