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ImRonBurgundy?:
--- Quote from: KeepACoolin on 07 Feb 2009, 08:37 ---Joe Strummer, despite being an okay guitarist (Mick was better), does not have the best taste in music. Punk rockers were more interested in angriness of the lyrics. And I mean that the Ramones were BAD AT THEIR INSTRUMENTS.
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Are you serious? There is so much wrong with this post that I don't even know where to begin.
KeepACoolin:
You can't compare the musical talent of the Ramones to almost anyone else. They're comparable to the Sex Pistols in terms of sheer musical badness. Drums: play sixteenth notes on the hihats, quarter notes on bass and snare. Guitar: random downstrokes (playing in a coherent time signature not necessary). Bass: sixteenth notes on any one string. There: the Ramones.
Christophe:
--- Quote from: KeepACoolin on 07 Feb 2009, 11:16 ---musical talent is directly correlated with technical skill
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You're a huge Rush fan, aren't you?
KeepACoolin:
No, I'm not. And I didn't say what you quote me as saying.
Technical skill is a prerequisite, but it is not the end-all-be-all of music. The Ramones can't play their instruments better than twelve year old girls. Therefore, I do not like listening to them.
My favorite band is Zeppelin. They are very good musicians, but not the best. I dislike Rush, because they disregard the process of writing songs that people enjoy listening to. However, I do like Dream Theater and Liquid Tension Experiment, who are better than Rush in terms of musicianship, but are totally awesome prog rockers who write very interesting music. I also really love The Black Keys, who are not the best musicians, but are good and write material that I love to listen to. I really don't like punk (except for The Clash), because it emphasizes overly simplistic music with angry political lyrics. Punk is the ultimate in attitude over talent. But I also don't want it to be all talent, no attitude.
Oh, by the way, I can't stand the Nuge. Can't stand him.
Christophe:
--- Quote from: KeepACoolin on 07 Feb 2009, 11:26 ---Technical skill is a prerequisite, but it is not the end-all-be-all of music. The Ramones can't play their instruments better than twelve year old girls. Therefore, I do not like listening to them.
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Do you realize how oxymoronical this statement is? Your statement still boils down to "I don't like The Ramones because they can't play their instruments" even after you say musical skill is not the be-all end-all of music. By the way, The Ramones probably did play their instruments better than 12-year-old girls could. Hell, I prefer The Clash to The Ramones because I think they wrote better songs, not because they were better at their instruments than The Ramones.
--- Quote from: KeepACoolin on 07 Feb 2009, 11:26 ---I really don't like punk (except for The Clash), because it emphasizes overly simplistic music with angry political lyrics. Punk is the ultimate in attitude over talent. But I also don't want it to be all talent, no attitude.
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Sorry, but I have to call absolute complete bullshit on this attitude. Sure, you may be talking about '77 punk when the genre was still gestating. But to write off all punk as "attitude over talent" is stupid. To discount punk is to discount everything that came afterwards (and that includes most indie rock)--take bands like Mission of Burma, Husker Du, Fugazi, et cetera. Each of these bands could and did play fast and had to some degree that "punk" attitude, but their musicianship was also a league above the average garage punk band. And the music they made is absolutely timeless.
Punk rock showed that you need not have incredible musical skill to make good music. Inversely, I don't think you need to be bad at your instrument to be in a good punk band.
TL;DR Go crack open a copy of Our Band Could Be Your Life.
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