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Dazed:
Ok, see if you say that John Petrucci is the best modern prog rock guitar wanker, you might even be able to convince me of that. Because he is a very skilled technician, he just *does not make good music*.

So, off the top of my head, John McLaughlin, Steve Howe, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Vernon Reid, Andre Olbrich, Brian Patrick Carroll, and probably Eddie Van Halen.

KeepACoolin:

--- Quote from: Dazed on 07 Feb 2009, 20:49 ---Ok, see if you say that John Petrucci is the best modern prog rock guitar wanker, you might even be able to convince me of that. Because he is a very skilled technician, he just *does not make good music*.

So, off the top of my head, John McLaughlin, Steve Howe, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Vernon Reid, Andre Olbrich, Brian Patrick Carroll, and probably Eddie Van Halen.

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I disagree.  In terms of agreeable music, I think Stevie Ray Vaughan is among the best in the world.  But he does not have the same technical skill.  Eddie Van Halen, in my opinion, fails on both counts- worse music, less talent.  Obviously, you disagree.

kyleg:

--- Quote from: Hat on 07 Feb 2009, 19:31 ---You could get away with saying DT are less guilty of writing technical music for technicalities sake than Rush, if you had a real silver tongue but Liquid Tension Experiment are one of the biggest wank bands on the planet.

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To be fair, that's the entire point of LTE to begin with.

Much of newer DT I agree is boring. Awake, Images and Words, and A Change of Seasons are phenominal albums chock full insanely technical musicianship and disciplined songwriting. Their last three or so have been off the mark on the songwriting aspect, but it happens with almost evry band that's been around for like 20 years.

Metallica I think has put together a sucessful comeback album with Death Magnetic. Objectively, it's on par with And Justice for All. I still haven't forgiven them for Load, Reload, or St. Anger, though.

Thrillho:
You can't say 'objectively' about music. It doesn't work. Such a thing does not exist.


--- Quote from: KharBevNor on 07 Feb 2009, 18:35 ---Also, stop wanking on about Jones, Matlock wrote most of the Sex Pistols music. Fun music fact for the day: Glen Matlock came up with the riff for Pretty Vacant by accident whilst trying to nail 'Fernando' by Abba.

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'Wanking on'? Having mentioned him by name in one post and referring to him indirectly in a second?

Besides, we were talking about musical skill, and I think Jones has done a couple of little fills and such which suggest he was slightly better a guitarist than he got credit for. I wasn't talking about the songwriting.

ImRonBurgundy?:
Actually, it's pretty well-documented that Steve Jones was a very disciplined and adept guitar player.  Of course, this was because, according to him, he was high on speed much of the time and the only thing he did was play guitar.

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