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tania:
ah, right, adaptation is the right word. i was thinking of something else.
still, it goes against the point that animals would suffer less than humans since species only really evolve in the first place when something kills the old species before they can procreate but not the new one. otherwise you get animals like tortoises and sharks which have stayed the same for literally billions of years because there is no reason why any offspring they have, even if genetically different, would have any advantage over them. so in order for organisms to evolve in the first place, it's implied that something must be happening that's killing a whole bunch of the original species but not the genetic anomalies. which could be climate change, and the same thing would probably end up happening to humans as well.
RedLion:
--- Quote from: ephemere on 10 Aug 2008, 16:11 --- every other animal on earth is pretty much going to go through the same thing we are.
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Which is precisely why global warming is an issue of such magnitude.
Earth certainly does go through periods of warming and cooling, as evidenced by the numerous ice ages. But the rate at which the temperature is increasing in unprecedented. It's amazing what scientists have been able to learn by drilling deep down into Arctic and Antarctic ice and tell what the general average temperature of an era was (I don't recall the minutiae of the process for how they determine that, but it's a fairly common and accepted practice.) The average temperature heights reached after an ice age were surpassed long ago. We're really in uncharted territory here.
And the fact that we've sat around on our hands for so long doing nothing while clowns like this bleat on like deranged cattle has possibly moved us beyond a point where we can even do anything to halt, let alone reverse, the warming trend. And as water levels rise and inundates massively populated areas along coasts, a flood of people will cause a huge strain on every region of the world. We're looking at hundreds of millions of displaced, poor, malnourished, sick people.
I'm not being alarmist or hyperbolic. It's already happening in low-lying countries like Bangladesh, Seychelles, the Maldives, dozens of Pacific island nations. Some of these places are going to be completely submerged in a decade's time...
jhocking:
--- Quote from: Vendetagainst on 10 Aug 2008, 15:51 ---I read an issue of New Scientist that I thought made a really good point. Global Warming is a human problem, other species will continue to adapt and move on as they have since life was first formed, and ultimately only humans will be impacted.
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How is this a good point? "Oh don't worry, we're not going to wipe out all life, just life as we know it."
RallyMonkey:
From a human perspective, it is very bad. Your grand children probably will not survive if global warming is in fact true.
Yet, from a world perspective, it is old hat. We are not destroying the Earth, we are changing the Earth, which is a natural process, as we are part of the world. Everything we do, everything we make is natural. No matter how much humans like to believe we are special and different, we are not. Humans ceasing to exist is not the end of the world. The animals we know ceasing to exist is not the end of the world. In fact, it is completely normal. Trying to stop it truly is futile, at most we can prolong our death as a species. But no matter what, the world will go on.
Vendetagainst:
well sure it is!
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