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Zingoleb:
My music tastes are pretty varied, but most of my stuff is older; mainly, I thought that new stuff was garbage, but I've been hearing things to change my mind, bit by bit. So, as most of my library is rock, and most of THAT is classic rock, let me ask a question:

When did post-rock come to be?

When did rock stop and let a post-period happen?

Why don't we refer to ragtime as pre-rock?

Okay, that's three questions, sorry.

gardenhead_:
post-rock means as much as indie does now. on last.fm, the wiki says
--- Quote ---Post-rock is a genre of alternative rock characterized by the use of musical instruments commonly associated with rock music, but using rhythms, harmonies, melodies, timbre, and chord progressions that are not found in rock tradition.
--- End quote ---

Mogwai and EitS are the second and third most tagged artists as "post-rock". Mogwai are a self proclaimed rock band, and don't really deviate from regular rock music " rhythms, harmonies, melodies, timbre, and chord progressions". EitS don't really either. It's rather ridiculous.

Sorry, just had to get my rant on about that, as it's irritated me for some time.

jimbunny:
If only all rants were so short.

Nodaisho:
There never has to be a break for something to be post-___ as far as I can tell. Post-punk was certainly around in 1980, before some famous punk bands started, from what I can tell, post-___ in music means slower and with more odd sounds.

Jackie Blue:

--- Quote from: gardenhead_ on 27 Aug 2008, 20:36 ---Mogwai are a self proclaimed rock band, and don't really deviate from regular rock music " rhythms, harmonies, melodies, timbre, and chord progressions".

--- End quote ---

Correct, except that Mogwai actually refer to themselves as a "punk rock" band.

And to be fair, the very earliest post-rock - Disco Inferno, etc - actually did deviate from traditional rock forms, and current bands such as Tarantel also do.

But, let's just lock this thread and be done with.

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