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Lars must be pissed
Thrillho:
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 04 Sep 2008, 11:53 ---In one breath people will say "they're crap, they've sold out, fuck Metallica" because they changed their sound, but when they make their way back toward their old sound "they're crap, they've sold out, fuck Metallica" because they're retreading old ground?
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Except, if you read my post more closely, you'll see I am NOT one of those people.
Metallica have pussied out because their fans were moaning that Metallica didn't sound like the 80s any more. So after trying some new stuff that everyone hated, they've decided to change back to the 1980s sound. In other words, gone against what they wanted for the purpose of $$$. To me, that's selling out.
0bsessions:
Where did I name check you in that post? Try not to read into something that isn't there.
As for your argument, there's two things to this:
One, what ever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt? Who says they didn't just get sick of their new direction?
Two, saying they sold out now is as laughable as the entire concept of selling out is to begin with. People bandy it about as if it's some grave sin. Metallica "sold out" decades ago, as soon as they started selling their music. People have a label for bands that play music because they love money, I have a label for people who don't: broke. Three attempted new directions (Black album, the Loads and then St. Anger) that didn't seem to work with their fanbase later and Metallica tried something closer to their old style again. What exactly is the sin here?
0bsessions:
Oh no no. I am most assuredly not becoming a fixture of the music forum. I just saw this thread and was vaguely interested. This place frightens me.
Not to WCT levels, but enough.
sean:
C'mon Jon, the music forums are nowhere near WCT levels. Like, not even close.
Also, I saw a music video for one of the songs. It's terrible. Not only the drums are bad, but the vocals just sounded completely over polished and terrible. But maybe its been like that for a while now.
Thrillho:
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 04 Sep 2008, 12:58 ---One, what ever happened to giving people the benefit of the doubt? Who says they didn't just get sick of their new direction?
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Forgive me for being cynical about a band who weren't above suing their own fans. Hell, I was on their side in that thing, but even so.
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 04 Sep 2008, 12:58 ---Two, saying they sold out now is as laughable as the entire concept of selling out is to begin with. People bandy it about as if it's some grave sin. Metallica "sold out" decades ago, as soon as they started selling their music. People have a label for bands that play music because they love money, I have a label for people who don't: broke. Three attempted new directions (Black album, the Loads and then St. Anger) that didn't seem to work with their fanbase later and Metallica tried something closer to their old style again. What exactly is the sin here?
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You don't know me at all. I can count on one hand bands that I think have sold out, and I can't remember who the other ones are anyway.
Selling out isn't selling your music (that's more at the punk/hardcore level of selling out, which I always considered BS), selling out is taking money over principles. Metallica got bored of thrash, tried something new, the fans shat on it and now they've done a U-turn to try and regain their lost credibility.
Makes no difference to me anyway, I wasn't about to buy it, and most Metallica fans think I'm an arsehole anyway because I liked Load and think St. Anger wouldn't be nearly as bad with proper mixing.
Oh, and also I hate ...AJFA, because of the mixing. I can't stand to listen to most of it.
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