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Lars must be pissed
spoon_of_grimbo:
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--- Quote from: spoon_of_grimbo on 29 Sep 2008, 09:18 ---i don't get why people think the drums are TUNED badly... sure, they're not the best sounding drums i've ever heard, but it's not the tuning that's the problem - they're WAY too high in the mix, and way too dry (i.e. absolutely no reverb on them)
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It may be a predictable reference, but Steve Albini rarely uses reverb on anything, ever, and god-danged if he doesn't have some of the best recorded drum sounds around to his name.
It really is the tuning!
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true, but i'm sure i heard that he uses delay to thicken the drum sound considerably. the drum sound he got on "in utero" is absolutely skull-fuckingly immense. lars' sound here sounds like he's really close to you in a small practice room, while the rest of the band are further away. a bit of revery (or delay) would fix it to a large extent. i'm not saying he couldn't do with a re-tune, but that's not the biggest problem there, that's all i'm saying.
Touch Me Im Sick:
--- Quote ---true, but i'm sure i heard that he uses delay to thicken the drum sound considerably. the drum sound he got on "in utero" is absolutely skull-fuckingly immense.
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I can hear the delay too, especially on the intro to "Scentless Apprentice"
David_Dovey:
Actually the main problem for me with the drums on Death Magnetic are (predictably) that they are just way too compressed. Particularly the snare drum, which when compressed reasonably hard can change the tone noticeably, give it a great "crack" and just generally improve it. I do it all the time. But there is a fine line to be drawn between where the tone is changed pleasingly and where it begins to get abrasive.
I'm going to guess that Lars' snare drum was compressed quite hard to begin with before getting the ole' brickwall treatment at the stereo buss with the rest of the instruments, thus crapping it up good and proper.
spoon_of_grimbo:
--- Quote from: David_Dovey on 03 Oct 2008, 02:05 ---Actually the main problem for me with the drums on Death Magnetic are (predictably) that they are just way too compressed. Particularly the snare drum, which when compressed reasonably hard can change the tone noticeably, give it a great "crack" and just generally improve it. I do it all the time. But there is a fine line to be drawn between where the tone is changed pleasingly and where it begins to get abrasive.
I'm going to guess that Lars' snare drum was compressed quite hard to begin with before getting the ole' brickwall treatment at the stereo buss with the rest of the instruments, thus crapping it up good and proper.
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this is true, and it's laughable that a producer or sound engineer would do something so monumentally fucking stupid - i started a music tech course two years ago with absolutely no prior experience in the subject, and this was one of the first things they covered, and damn if they didn't emphasise it a LOT. i hope the studio fired whoever did this. and if it comes out that it's rick rubin's doing, maybe it'll help prove the point that the guy is hideously overrated as a producer.
philharmonic:
and he should be. I've downloaded "The Day That Never Comes" from ptp chat room. Heard "Cyanide" on the radio yesterday. Might just pick up the CD next payday. Real fans usually buy the cds eventually. I might even pick up "Ride the Lightning" while i'm at it. Mabey they should take a page from AC DC and market the back catalogue... cheap yes but they still get a cut.
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