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Sort of spurred after seeing a few posts in the top 10 thread. So,

1. Your favorite "low production" (or at least, they make it sound like low production -- dirty, gritty, noisy)
2. Favorite "high production" (or perfect harmonies, detailed, clean, etc)
3. Bands you think that could/should go in another direction on the spectrum.

i.e.

1. Low: Titus Androncius, GBV, Tom Waits
2. High: Sufjan Stevens, Anathallo, Beck, Flaming Lips, Arcade Fire
3. I'd like to see Hold Steady go back to more of a "Separation Sunday" sound. Always wondered what GBV would sound like with a budget, but might not work. Definitely didn't dig most of the "Distortion" (heh) in Magnetic Field's latest. 
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #1 on: 07 Sep 2008, 17:20 »

Tom Waits has gritty production?

This has gritty production.
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #2 on: 07 Sep 2008, 18:31 »

Low

Jacksonville City Nights by Ryan Adams and the Cardinals, seems to have been done more or less live, occasional shitty vocals and all, just put to tape flat out. It makes it much more of a charming record considering it's essentially a deadpan pastiche.

Glassjaw's Everything You Ever Wanted To Know About Silence basically sounds like mud - the guitars are really low, the drums are clunky - but Daryl's vocals are so up-front, in your face and raw and it just makes the whole record hit a lot harder than it would if it'd been traditionally multi-tracked, etc.

Anything by Elvis recorded at Sun studios, which was just some slapback and his band.

Anything by Minor Threat, Black Flag's first record.

Tinariwen's Aman Iman which I think was all done live too. Just adds to the intimacy and hypnotic power of the music.

The first two Stooges records couldn't have been produced any other way.

High

Anything by Joy Division. The space, the air, the echo that makes it sound like it was recorded by four band members at four different poles, with nothing but sound in between.

The MC5's Back In The USA deliberately has a very 1950s, tinny, thin sound, all treble and virtually no bass. But somehow the songs stand up to it. The addition of just a tiny bit of organ on 'Tonight' makes it all the sweeter. Honourable mention goes to the follow-up, High Times because they went the opposite way and just piled anything they could think of onto every song.

Glassjaw's second album, Worship And Tribute is totally different to its predecessor as far as sound. It's sharper, cleaner, leaner like a big cat, and it's not so much shiny as it is metallic, like the buttons on a military uniform before espionage. I know I'm sounding pretentious here, but my aim in life is to be a music journo after all.

Any of Dr. Dre's big single productions, but the stuff from his 1990s period stands out to me more, like 'No Diggity' and 'The Next Episode,' or 'Still D.R.E.'

Twilight Singers' Powder Burns. I consider this record to be a modern classic, and the production I think is flawless - it's so smooth and warm, with pianos and strings and the kitchen sink thrown in, it's all so unnecessary yet fits so perfectly to the haziness of the songs.

Changes

First, foremost and above all others - Henry's Dream by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. These are some of his darkest, hardest songs and on this record they sound so wimpy. He did a live album to make up for most of it (including a wonderfully heavy 'Jack The Ripper') but I really wish I could just re-record and re-mix it so it sounds right.

I think that Linkin Park, whilst insanely poppy even on their first album, weren't half as tarted up as they are now and if they stripped their sound back a bit more it'd be a more credible sound than what they have at the moment.
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #3 on: 07 Sep 2008, 18:41 »

Do bootlegs count as low production? Cause the bootleg where Godspeed and Low play Do You Know How to Waltz? is awesome.
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #4 on: 07 Sep 2008, 19:41 »

I must find said bootleg
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #5 on: 07 Sep 2008, 19:44 »

I can upload it tomorrow if you can be patient.
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #6 on: 07 Sep 2008, 19:56 »

Holy god yes, I can be patient for that!
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #7 on: 07 Sep 2008, 21:10 »

Let's see...

Low Production:

Nachtmystium
Deathspell Omega
Neutral Milk Hotel
Pavement (Slanted & Enchanted only)
Jiimi Hendrix (Blues)

High Production:

Pretty much every classical recording is an audiophile's wet dream
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #8 on: 07 Sep 2008, 21:33 »

Low Production:
Wolves in the Throne Room
Gary Higgins
Titan

High Production:
Colour Haze
Black Moth Super Rainbow
Holy Fuck

Middle of the Road:
Leech
Dethklok
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #9 on: 07 Sep 2008, 23:53 »

Lo-Production:
Most Beat Happening albums
Rites of Spring: End On End
Die Kreuzen: Die Kreuzen
Elliott Smith: Elliott Smith
Teenage Fanclub: A Catholic Education

Hi-Production:
Unwound: Leaves Turn Inside You
Silkworm: Firewater
June of 44: Four Great Points
The Dismemberment Plan: Emergency and I
Hum: Downward is Heavenward
Refused: The Shape of Punk to Come
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #10 on: 08 Sep 2008, 01:36 »

Low:
The Honkers - Quite lo-fi (at least on the album I have), but it seems to improve the atmosphere rather than being detrimental to it.
Times Higher Education - Now defunct, but a great sound considering they recorded with a laptop mic.
Aces High - Decent three piece metal band, really nice basslines.
Battleheart - The EPs before they became Alestorm.

High:
Insomnium - I pretty much take every chance to talk about how awesome they are.

Could Change:
Eh, I always yelled about how Battleheart needed to have better recording quality, and now they do, so all is right in the world :D
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« Reply #11 on: 08 Sep 2008, 10:36 »

hmm.

Low-

Vlad Tepes- broullions I and II are pretty low
Aakon Keetreh- the dark winte, though dans le foret is probably worse
Behemoth- Return Of the Northern Moon (really low compared to the shiny productions nowadays)
Darkthrone- Panzerfaust (not the lowest, but my favourite)
Blind Lemon Jefferson- The Best Of
Venetian Snares- 7 Sevens Med EP (it's not that bad, but it's not as high quality as the stuff he makes nowadays)
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #12 on: 08 Sep 2008, 11:17 »

1. The Mountain Goats, Elliott Smith, Daniel Johnston, Yo La Tengo, Silver Jews

2. The Mountain Goats, Elliott Smith, Daniel Johnston, Yo La Tengo, Silver Jews

3. Daniel Johnston needs to go back to the basement and have his mom shouting at him all the time. And I wouldn't mind Darnielle going back to the boombox one more time. I consider all the post-All Hail West Texas albums to be of a completely different band, albeit a band which is awesome in their own right. How about a double album of old tMG songs being recorded in hi-/mid-fi style and new tMG songs being recorded in lo-fi boombox style? I'd buy that.
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.W
« Reply #13 on: 08 Sep 2008, 11:29 »

Vlad Tepes- broullions I and II are pretty low

I've heard some Vlad Tepes demos that are nigh indecipherable.
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« Reply #14 on: 08 Sep 2008, 12:15 »

I think they are the two...Of course, much more LLN is worse than that...Belketre and Brenoritvrezorkre are pretty bad, but, of course, the point was to put music we like.
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« Reply #15 on: 08 Sep 2008, 13:12 »

I'd like to see U2 try a low production album.  Because they'd sound great if every note of theirs didn't drip with egomaniacal bullcrap.
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #16 on: 08 Sep 2008, 13:17 »

Or worse, really.

(I strongly dislike U2)
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #17 on: 08 Sep 2008, 13:24 »

Maybe they should just make "the edge" eat his delay pedal.
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #18 on: 08 Sep 2008, 13:32 »

Just listen to Bill Baileys take on their pedals failing.
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #19 on: 08 Sep 2008, 13:57 »

Yeah, Bill Bailey is hilarious.

See it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZuwFqI2EIE
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« Reply #20 on: 08 Sep 2008, 15:13 »

Holy god yes, I can be patient for that!

It is uploaded now, you may stop being patient.
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Re: Low Production, High Production, and those between.
« Reply #21 on: 08 Sep 2008, 18:40 »

Yeah, Bill Bailey is hilarious.

Oh, hey.

I demand that show come out on DVD. I have it on my PC, and it's just fucking criminal.

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