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--- Quote from: theoryC on 29 Sep 2008, 19:44 ---I think he was saying that Radiohead fans love the band to the point of blinding themselves to the music's faults, which is very true.

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If they noticed any of the musics faults they probably wouldn't be a fan! People who are a big fan of a bands music are likely to like the music. The bigger fan they are, the more they will like the music. People who like music aren't likely to be able to find fault with it This is not a complicated causal chain

If I heard Johnny C say "now I love Sloan but sometimes they are just a little too upbeat and lack texture!" I would probably lose my shit and start weeping because something is wrong with the world.

Thrillho:
I don't think that being a fan means you can't see the faults in something. I mean, I think it's a good life philosophy to not take everything deadly seriously. Most of my favourite bands I can see why people would hate them, and being able to find jokes about your favourite bands funny I think is a good quality. Like Pink Floyd, they can sound pretentious as fuck (though I don't think they actually are, honestly), and Roger Waters does tend to disappear up his nose when he's singing (but then I like that, becuase I think he's got an extremely honest vocal style).


--- Quote from: Andrew Fleming on 29 Sep 2008, 16:28 ---I think what I really don't like about Radiohead is that even though they often get pegged as "experimental," they're actually frustratingly unwilling to experiment, trying to force everything into a cohesive pop-song structure, and always layering Yorke's stylistically suffocated vocals on top.
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Actually, I can see your point here. I disagree about Yorke's vocals, but I can see your point about them forcing their styles mostly into a pop song structure. However I still think that, as you said, Kid A and Amnesiac are predominantly exceptions to this rule as they generally lack any kind of structure for the most part. 'Everything In Its Right Place' for example just kind of ebbs and flows.

Andrew Fleming:
It's not so much the rock song structure that sticks to their music, but the Radiohead song structure - Everything in it's Right Place really just ebbs and flows - it actually reminds me of an ambient drone song, compressed to, what was it, four minutes? Yorke's vocals don't dominate nearly as much and flow WITH the music rather than directing it.
I didn't really mean anything by saying that Radiohead's fans love them, either, except that I think they're a bit of a polarizing band. Definitely not that it's BAD to like them, just that they're the kind of band whose fans will never give up on them on them and whose detractors hate them that much more for it. Which I guess is me.

Oh, I think your comment about the nasally vocals of Roger Waters is cool, too. I also like singers like this, which is why I don't like Thom Yorke very much. His vocals and his vocal parts are always far too polished and never really seem to communicate the desperate emotions that they sound like they're trying to - in fact, they never seem very emotional at all to me - they sound like something that has been rehearsed and refined so much that now it is just a creation, some kind of carefully blueprinted architecture rather than a house of cards, which is weak but amazing because it has been accomplished.

I admit completely that this entire thing is just a little stylistic irk of mine, but it's one that completely ruins their music for me.
Actually, there was a long thread about this on 4chan just recently, and people mostly said the same thing: It's boring.

Moist Cowboy:
OK computer was great, but I dunno I have never gotten through in rainbows without falling asleep.

short5913:
i cant belive pablo honey has more votes than hail to the thief. Im not saying PH is bad its actually really good and i really like a few of the songs off it but HTTT is better
2 + 2 = 5, myxamatosis, sit down stand up, wolf at the door and where I end and u begin are awesome songs

p.s i voted for Kid A lol

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