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Thrillho:

--- Quote from: sitnspin on 18 Aug 2020, 09:22 ---Started reading Harrow the Ninth, sequel to Gideon the Ninth. More lesbian necromancers in space. It is difficult to describe without spoilers from the first book. The tone is quite different from the first book as Harrow and Gideon are vastly different characters. If you've read the first book and liked it, I still suggest you pick this one up.  If you haven't read the first one, then I definitely recommend you remedy that.

I repeat: Lesbian Necromancers In Space.

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My brother bought this for my (now, not when bought) ex for their birthday this past Summer. Well, actually the first one, but they immediately bought the sequel on their ebook reader.

sitnspin:
I just finished reading "Plain Bad Heroines" by Emily M. Danforth (probably most famous for "The Miseducation of Cameron Post"). It is a combination horror story, historical drama, romantic comedy, and Hollywood critique. It surprisingly managed to pull off all these very well with both the individual aspects being particularly good as well as the combined whole. The book splits its narrative between the time leading up to and the process of filming a horror film and the historical events the film is based on. I particularly enjoyed the narrative style, which evokes the feeling of the author speaking directly to the reader and, in meta sort of way, acts similarly to mockumentary style as the film in the book. The characters are immanently relatable, if not always likable, which makes them feel that much more real. The illustrations that litter the book periodically add dramatically to the style and mood of the piece.

LeeC:

--- Quote from: LeeC on 06 Dec 2018, 08:17 ---How many Ladies of the Lake are there? How are they different from the damsels of the lake?  I think either the translation is not adding up or Malory just expected the reader to understand or not care but dammit I want to know! Like who the fuck was in the water giving out Excalibur if The lady of the lake was the one on the shore explaining everything to Arthur and gave him her boat to get the sword? Then she dies a few chapters later. But how if she is suppose to be magical? Then Nimue shows up and is also a lady/damsel of the lake as well as others. Are they of different lakes? Is the one inside the lake the queen of the lake? Is there a hierarchy of some sort? Who is in charge? Is anyone in charge? How do they work?




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--- Quote from: Cornelius on 07 Dec 2018, 02:08 ---If I remember correctly, Malory distinguishes between two ladies of the Lake, with Nimue as the most important.

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Okay I have an answer. In "Le Morte d'Arthur" there are 4. 3 of which do not have proper names and are just referred to via their title.

LotL 1: Bargains with Arthur for Excalibur. (click to show/hide) And is later killed by Sir Balin over a family feud.LotL 2: Physically gives Excalibur to Arthur and also reclaims it from Sir Bedivere at the end of the story.
LotL 3 (Nimue): Becomes LotL after she learns magic from Merlin and (click to show/hide) imprisons him for eternity because he kept creeping on her.LotL 4: Is unrelated to the previous 3 and adopted and then raised Sir Lancelot, Sir Bors and Sir Lionel.

Some of the LotL have agents that go out and do their bidding or help whatever protagonists the story is about. Damosel is not really a title but just another way of describing a well-to-do lady and crops up to describe ladies both magical and mundane.

Many authors after Malory combine these 4 or combine them with other characters (like Morgan le Fay, or Morgause). I can see why in the Warhammer Fantasy world Damsels in the Arthorian Myth inspired faction The Bretonnians, are wizards. This makes sense considering damsels in Le Morte d'Arthur are often adventuring just as much as the knights and some use magic (like Lynette who would cock block her sister, Lyonesse, by summoning a magical knight to stab Sir Gareth at night when Lyonesse would try to sneak over to him for a booty call. This happens several times until they marry. Poor Sir Gareth).

sitnspin:
Gotta respect Gareth's commitment there.

Thrillho:
I'm currently reading two different books on Irish history, Emma by Jane Austen and Hunger Makes Me a Modern Girl by Carrie Brownstein.

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