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KharBevNor:
Because it would be much simpler and more rewarding to you for you to read it again?
Okay:
1) It's asking whether the concept of an incorruptible hero makes any sense in a realistic setting.
2) It's asking whether it is better for people to give up their responsibility to shadowy, powerful agents (either governments or heroes) or to take their lives in their own hands and probably fail spectacularly.
There's also the central struggle between the two horrifying forms of idealism represented by Veidt and Rorschach. Also, furthermore, I think you'll find that there isn't really that much of the 'spandex and superheroes are silly ololol'. Watchmen just tries to make everything a bit more realistic, and the comments some people make about superheroes are fairly accurate to what things would be like if people ran around in tight costumes beating people up in the real world. But the emotional complexity, especially around the two Nite Owl characters, is far and beyond just taking the piss.
0bsessions:
I'll admit that the "superheroes are silly" remark is an oversimplification, but it's the shortest and simplest way of conveying it. I'm not saying that Watchmen is conveying that reading about superheroes is silly (Which has always been more of a Grant Morrison thing than an Alan Moore thing), he's conveying that the idea of trusting superheroes to work within our best interests is silly, which is, as I noted, a simplification of the two points you make. The failure of the corruptible hero and the onus of responsibility in a society with superheroes both fall under the "super heroes are silly" point I observed before. I find this to be merely adequate satire than any brilliant point. The idea's been showing up in literature for years and showed up in simpler terms in various comics before Watchmen ever saw print. I just don't see it as any revolutionary genius, just a pretty alright satire that read pretty mundane to me.
Sure, maybe if I read it in 1985, I might have enjoyed it more. I even tried to put myself into the context of the time and what I know of it in an effort to enjoy it more, but it didn't happen.
KharBevNor:
But the point is the only incorruptible hero is the most dangerous one.
Scandanavian War Machine:
--- Quote from: Blue Kitty on 29 Dec 2008, 17:57 ---It's kind of funny that you cite The Killing Joke, cause for some reason I found it underwhelming.
--- End quote ---
yeah, i was a little disappointed as well. i was really looking forward to it because it's held in such high regard but as soon as i opened it up i was like "uh i don't know about this art" and after reading it was not very impressed. i'll probably read it a couple more times just to be sure (since it's so damn short) but yeah...underwhelming.
Joseph:
Clearly From Hell is the place to go for Alan Moore. Seriously.
Also, has anyone here read Lost Girls? Opinions?
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