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Jackie Blue:
I think there's sufficient evidence that some ancient "gods" were aliens to remain agnostic about it. Things like the Nazca Lines are just a bit too weird for me to shrug off as very bizarre and pointless expressionist art from a culture who had enough to worry about re: food, shelter and not being killed by rival cultures. :-)
celticgeek:
During these tumultuous times, people of all faiths (as well as those of no faith) should
remember the Four Great Religious Truths:
1. Muslims do not recognize Jews as God's chosen people.
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian world.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other at Hooters.
jtheory:
--- Quote from: Jackie Blue on 06 Jan 2009, 17:56 ---I think there's sufficient evidence that some ancient "gods" were aliens to remain agnostic about it. Things like the Nazca Lines are just a bit too weird for me to shrug off as very bizarre and pointless expressionist art from a culture who had enough to worry about re: food, shelter and not being killed by rival cultures. :-)
--- End quote ---
Ah, but they probably made them for religious reasons, so depending on their beliefs, it could have easily seemed *essential* to get the pattern completed because of a drought, attacks from rivals, and so on.... There was a lot of praying, self-flagellation, killing Jews, etc. during the Black Plague when that time could have really been better spent actually fighting the spread of the disease.
"Aliens" is a big stretch wrt the Nazca Lines, either way. The designs have been reproduced in modern times with no modern technology, just using string and wooden stakes like those found at many corners of the designs, by a handful of people over a couple of days. The biggest Nazca design is still under 270 m long; to put that in perspective, when I was in high school our (standard-sized 400m oval) athletic track was about 200m from outer lane curve to outer lane curve, and we didn't have bleachers or anything to watch from; most spectators just stood by the fence. No one watched from aircraft; I'm pretty sure.
These kinds of "evidence" of alien visitors, ghosts, and so on are entertaining, and they fill tons of TV specials, but I'm yet to find one that doesn't just crumble when I dig at all to find more solid evidence. Not that I try to chase them all down, obviously.
But even if aliens had visited and been mistaken for gods... that would be evidence for alien visitors, not for the god/gods of theism --- not any more than Cortes was evidence for Quetzalcoatl's existence.
JonSnow:
ah if we're talking about possible alien influences in ancient cultures, I can get you some more examples.
Egyptians have vases made from one solid piece, drilled to be hollow drilled in a way that our modern equipment cant even drill (small for the neck to big for the body of the vase)
also a stone sarcophagus has been found of a rock that's almost impossible to process even with our modern tools, yet they chipped it out with normal chisels and hammers.
The lines of erosion on the egyptian sphynx run both horizontal (as to be expected with wind/sand erosion) and vertical (which indicates erosion by rain), the last time it rained in the desert was during the last ice-age, long before the egyptians came to power.
in south america a pyramid is build on a solid stone slab of a stone that can only be found half a continent more south. The truck required to move this rockslab from it's source to where the pyramid was built, has not yet been invented.
Now this is ofcourse no proof of alien visits, it could indicate aliens or an even older more advanced civilisation living on earth (cfr atlantis)
--- Quote from: celticgeek on 06 Jan 2009, 21:36 ---During these tumultuous times, people of all faiths (as well as those of no faith) should
remember the Four Great Religious Truths:
1. Muslims do not recognize Jews as God's chosen people.
2. Jews do not recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
3. Protestants do not recognize the Pope as the leader of the
Christian world.
4. Baptists do not recognize each other at Hooters.
--- End quote ---
1. Muslims dont recognize any other religion accept their own (btw nobody but Jews sees them as God's chosen)
2. Jews recognize christianity but as something inferior, and that's pretty much all they recognize
3. Protestants (anglo saxon ones) actually have only one difference with catholics, the king of england wanted to remarry and the pope wouldnt let him and thats when it was created. So they dont recognize the pope as their leader, but to be honest their leader would be the queen of england.
4. Baptists are just weird
Evander:
--- Quote from: jtheory on 06 Jan 2009, 00:48 ---Most versions of the major religions come with the natural conclusion that atheists are going to burn for all eternity in Hell and may tempt other good religious people to burn as well.
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I wouldn't know: there is no hell in Judaism.
And Wargrafix, I'm sorry you had to go through that, but I've been through the same thing with people being shocked over my not believing in Jesus, or not celebrating Christmas. Atheism is just one of the many ways that you can be different from other people.
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