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Mr. Skawronska:
Kissing Hank's Ass

Somehow this link popped into my head during my lack of attentiveness over this discussion.

No, it's not a Rickroll.  It's funnier than that.

S

Evander:

--- Quote from: Mr. Skawronska on 18 Jan 2009, 22:13 ---Kissing Hank's Ass

Somehow this link popped into my head during my lack of attentiveness over this discussion.

No, it's not a Rickroll.  It's funnier than that.

S

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I think I've seen that somewhere before.

It does a shitty job of making a real argument (prefer to just minimalize things to make them absurd instead) but it does point out what I consider to be the big issue of Christianity, which is the emphasis on belief in God.  It is not enough to be a good person or do good things, but that what God really cares about is that you believe he is God.  I've always felt that if that is really the case, and it's all real, then I'd rather not spend all eternity with that kind of a conceited asshole anyway.

Of course, I say this having been born in to a religion where the afterlife is an afterthought, not the primary focus, and actions are considered more important than belief when judging a person.  If I can from a different background, who knows what my opinion of religion would be.

JReynolds:
Minor nitpick: Henry VIII had six wives, not eight. A simple mnemonic to remember their fates:

Divorced, Beheaded, Died; Divorced, Beheaded, Survived.

Evander:

--- Quote from: Jeans on 19 Jan 2009, 05:28 ---
--- Quote from: JonSnow on 07 Jan 2009, 08:47 ---3. Protestants (anglo saxon ones) actually have only one difference with catholics, the king of england wanted to remarry and the pope wouldnt let him and thats when it was created. So they dont recognize the pope as their leader, but to be honest their leader would be the queen of england.

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You're talking about The Church of England, which is separate from the Protestant faith. King Henry VIII created The Church of England when the pope wouldn't let him divorce his then-wife, Catherine of Aragon (the first out of a grand total of eight). The Protestant faith was founded - or, rather, the initial idea was sparked - when Martin Luther posted a set of 95 theses on a church door, originally called Disputation of Martin Luther on the Power and Efficacy of Indulgences, more commonly known as The 95 Theses.This was basically a list over shit he didn't like with the catholic church, a lot of it was about the unfairness of how you could pay the church to be relieved of sins - he believed in a more personal God, and less requirement of a middle man, like the church, or a priest.

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What I find funny about Martin Luther is how convinced he was that the Jews would flock to his new form of Christianity.  His later writings have made him out to be something of a notorious Anti-Semite, but he only got that way through disappointment that his changes weren't just the thing that Jews were waiting for in order to accept Jesus.

JonSnow:
Luther did not inspire modern Anglo Saxon religion, Luther inspired modern Dutch and some other mainland european protestants, but not the English.
He wanted a belief where pretty much everything was predetermined and that we could have faith that everything we do is the will of god

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