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Atheist Penelope
KeepACoolin:
--- Quote from: Dotes on 14 Dec 2008, 21:23 ---Why's Jeph raggin' so hard on crazy atheist Penelope? As an atheist myself it kinda bothers me, especially since the whole "fundamentalist atheist" thing is a big farce. Atheism is about skepticism, not absolutism. I understand that they're just characters and dialogue, but it all comes from somewhere, and I don't like the way some of her views are being treated in the comic.
I know I shouldn't complain and just be happy that Jeph makes such a great comic, but I can't help but be bothered by the latest few Penelope strips. I'm not making a big deal about it though, I just want to see what a few other people think. Are you bothered by it? Or does it seems like a fair portrayal of atheists that you met? Or am I just a crazy person who gets offended by nothing?
Discuss.
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A.) I'm fairly sure that Jeph is also an atheist.
B.) The "fundamentalist atheist" thing may be exaggerated, but it is sometimes true (people I know).
C.) I'm a conservative Protestant, and I'm pretty sure that this comic is out to get me a little bit more than it's out to get you, but I still read and enjoy it.
Zephyrus:
--- Quote from: JonSnow on 25 Jan 2009, 02:19 ---Well excuse me but as Jews, Muslims and Christians all use the old testament, it's safe to assume that Allah, Jahwe and the Christian God are one and the same God. Don't tell the extremist believers of any of those religions but it is true. Even though a lot of Jews, muslims and christians dont want to accept it they all worship the same God, they just give him a different name. So believing in all 3 of those would mean you believe in 1 God after-all. Ofcourse if you believe in all the Gods, you also believe in Zeus, aphrodite, Hera,... (the greek gods) Jupiter, Venus, ... (the roman gods, aka the greek gods with other names), Ra, Isis, Seth, ... (the egyptian gods). Ganesh, Brahma, Vishnu (hindu gods), Thor, Balder, Loki, Odin, Frey,... (the norse gods) and all the african tribal religions, and somewhere you also believe in a man, you believe in Buddha. So do you believe in all these? Or are just somebody who doesnt really know what (or wants) to believe, but doesnt want to be labeled an atheïst?
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Yeah, Jews Muslims and Christians don't all use the old testament. Their religious texts are actually very different which makes their religions different so I wouldn't necessarily say that they all worship the same god since what you worship is predicated by what you believe. The use of the old testament in each of the religions varies to which parts they accept and their importance in relation to the other religious texts they use as I'm sure you know.
--- Quote from: JonSnow on 29 Jan 2009, 02:08 ---Actually hearing a voice in your head is more common then we would think, most people who hear this voice think it's their own thoughts but sometimes it really is a something else then your thoughts, last I read in a medical journal it was 6% of all humans have this form of Schizofrenia, and it only becomes a problem for less then a quarter of these people.
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Only 1-2% of people have schizophrenia. Most estimates puts it just over 1% and by just I mean no higher than 1.4%. Give me your sources for what you say, I have never heard the rates being said to be that high. Ever.
KeepACoolin:
Many Muslims have a problem with Christians claiming that they worship the same God, as they consider the doctrine of the Trinity to deny the unity of God, which is a central concept of Islam. They say that it either means Christians worship three gods or that they mean that God is in some way divided.
Surgoshan:
The wikipedia page on schizophrenia states that schizophrenia only afflicts 0.4-0.6% of the population. Their sources for that are articles specifically regarding the prevalence of schizophrenia, the first in the medical journal of the Public Library of Science, the second from the Canadian Journal of Psychiatry. Eachis a review of the literature to glean what others have gleaned and report on the consensus view (making it a secondary work). The first found the prevalence of schizophrenia to be 4 per mille, the second found that the amount varied greatly depending on the study from 3.3 per mille to 5.5 per mille up to 11.1 per mille.
Per mille is a lot like per cent, except it means "per 1000" instead of "per 100".
Zephyrus:
--- Quote from: Jeans on 07 Feb 2009, 15:04 ---
--- Quote from: Zephyrus on 07 Feb 2009, 12:27 ---Only 1-2% of people have schizophrenia. Most estimates puts it just over 1% and by just I mean no higher than 1.4%. Give me your sources for what you say, I have never heard the rates being said to be that high. Ever.
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It is pretty funny that you don't provide sources either.
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Uh sure. I got that little bit of knowledge from my abnormal psyc book but since I don't feel like digging through several boxes to find it lets use a website. According to NIMH the prevalence of schizophrenia is 1.1%.
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/schizophrenia/index.shtml
I also don't provide sources when I tell people that staring into the sun can cause blindness.
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