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jonarus_drakus:

--- Quote from: KeepACoolin on 29 Jul 2009, 22:08 ---
--- Quote from: Delirium on 29 Jul 2009, 21:33 ---I'll chalk that up as a win.

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That sounds like desperation.  And, yes, I know I'm responding- whatever.

And no, the game is not the existence of an afterlife.  The existence of an afterlife is a conclusion that might be drawn as a result of playing the game, which means deciding what you believe about the nature of the universe- for instance, whether or not life ends at death.  And I agree that it's obvious- I think that a person living logically MUST decide about the universe.

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And I am of the opinion that there is no NECISITY to come to any conclusion, or even consider the options at all. Thats not to say that any given DOES need to decide what to do with thier own life  (duh) but the big questions need not be considered as they will at most effect the individual own perception of reality, while reality itself will in actual fact remain the same.

@KeepACoolin: Do you at least accept my assertation that wether a person 'asks the question' or not is entire up to that person, and that the only things that would compel him/her to ask are things that exist within thier own mind as determind by thier own perception of reality? - PS: Your last response to a post of mine was not taken offensively, your welcome to your opinion, and i was kinda tiring of the discussion myself...

And on that note, laterz!

Is it cold in here?:
The crux (sorry) of the disagreement between Pennelope and Wil wasn't about the existence of God, though. What set her off was his talk about ghosts and spirits. She didn't even mention God until her rant had already picked up a full head of steam.

Delirium:
Damn, she gets pissy at a poet (one who styles himself after Poe, no less) for talking about ghosts and spirits?

Is it cold in here?:
Makes you wonder what on earth she was expecting.

Pypoli:

--- Quote from: KeepACoolin on 29 Jul 2009, 22:08 ---
--- Quote from: Delirium on 29 Jul 2009, 21:33 ---I'll chalk that up as a win.

--- End quote ---
That sounds like desperation.  And, yes, I know I'm responding- whatever.

And no, the game is not the existence of an afterlife.  The existence of an afterlife is a conclusion that might be drawn as a result of playing the game, which means deciding what you believe about the nature of the universe- for instance, whether or not life ends at death.  And I agree that it's obvious- I think that a person living logically MUST decide about the universe.

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As important as the existence of god might be to the universe, what difference does it make to you, as an infinitesimal part of the universe if he exists or not. His point is that, wether or not he chooses to believe in god - if he does at some point in life actually bother to make that decision - will not change the way he lives his life. Therefore, the existence, or inexistence, of god, is entirely unimportant to his continued existence, and any time spent reflecting upon that is time that would be better spent doing something else.

I disagree with his point. I think it's important to know where you stand on certain issues. You can have decided, one way or another, you can be uncertain, but to entirely not care about a matter that is so important to so many people around you, and therefore have an impact on the overall functioning of the world is slightly ... well ... childish.

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