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slaufer:
i'm not really liking either side of the argument here.

the theist says that there is a god, he knows there is a god, there must be a god because he knows it.

the athiest says that there is not a god, he knows there is not a god, and there must not be a god because he knows it.

is there any room for agnosticism here? i know that i don't know whether or not there is some superior power, or what exactly would define any given being as a god, but i do know that i have insufficient information to make a judgement as to whether or not one exists.

i mean sure, the bible ranks pretty high on my bullshitometer, but what if one day jesus christ and the prophet mohammad materialize out of thin air and say "okay guys, the point of all those books was vote no on prop 8" and they want to get married in california. oh and xenu is performing the ceremony.

Aurjay:
I agree with Agnosticism. Fence sitting metaphysically is always the best simply noone knows for sure either way and i'd hate to be wrong either way. 

pwhodges:
Fence sitting?  What fence?  I see no fence!

Saints:
Science does not refute the idea of god. It doesn't attempt to. It doesn't want to. It just attempts to explain our world. That is it.

The idea of god is NOT irrational because of scientific evidence. Science has offered absolutely no evidence that suggests a god doesn't exist.

It's offered no evidence that the Christian God doesn't exist.

Do not assume that you are a more rational person because you are an atheist. Do not assume that rationality holds no sway in deist/theists/Christian/Jew/whatever's life.

pwhodges:
So the idea of fairies is not irrational; Russell's teapot is fine; and there's a pig flying behind that cloud?  Oh, and there's this other world that science does not attempt to explain...

We've been there (in the Discuss forum).  Simply saying that something can't be disproved doesn't make it true, nor does it even provide a basis for believing in it.

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