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Atheist Penelope
Delirium:
You still haven't specified why belief in Yahweh is different from belief in any random pagan god, or even one made up on the spot.. The depiction of god in the bible is a patently ridiculous one. Anyways, Yahweh had its origin among many other gods in the land of Canaan.
cerement:
I probably wouldn't go so far as "patently ridiculous", but I would wonder about the mental health engendered by something as misogynistic as either the Old or New Testament ...
On the other hand, you don't like Christianity being called "patently ridiculous", but you're perfectly willing to allow the label to be applied to the followers of Ásatrú ...
JonSnow:
you're really going to say yahweh is real but odin or zeus isn't, because? polytheistic cultures actually just created gods for different aspects of their daily life, things they couldnt explain. So there's thunder and lightning we have a god for that. In egypt there is flooding of the nile that gives us life, so we have a god for that. In more ways then one this is more logical then one god doing it all, as it makes them less omnipotent and thus closer to human. Believing in an invisible god (or in an old bearded man in the sky, you pick) is really no different from believing in a jackalheaded, hawkheaded, hippoheaded, ... god.
As for most of the messiah story, it's a story that tells us about the passing of the sun through the stars of the zodiac in the night sky. Why? because almost every religion has probably the same story in it. The first time the story about a virgin birth, child teacher, death and ressurrection in 3 days appeared, was in ancient egypt before the jews were even slaves there. after that assyrians had a messiah story, there's even one in greek mythology. cant be assed to look em all up right now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRJlVBQkSSI <-- watch this with a mind that's even a little bit opened and you'll understand more about religion
Pypoli:
--- Quote from: Scarblac on 01 Sep 2009, 00:05 ---I have a question an atheism vs agnosticism. People on the Internet act as if there's a huge difference, but I was never taught these terms in school and can't figure out which one I am.
So: Let's say I make a up a creature right now; let's call it Asdfsoooxzm. It's unicorn-colored, all-powerful and lives outside this universe. Crucially, you can't prove that it doesn't exist. Neither can I; perhaps everything I can invent really does exist somewhere outside this universe.
I believe in God just as much as I believe in Asdfsoooxzm. And in other gods, for that matter.
If that belief makes me an atheist, why do people keep arguing with stuff like "A-ha! But you can't prove He doesn't exist!" when exactly the same is true of Asdfsoooxzm, and they're trying to convince me my belief in God should be different from my belief in Asdfsoooxzm?
If it makes me an agnostic, then that is really quite meaningless since I'd be mad to consider seriously the possibility that a creature I made up for a forum post actually exists. It'd be so close to atheism the difference is meaningless.
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As far as I have been informed, the difference between an agnostic and an atheist is this :
Atheists refuse to believe in the existence of a supreme being, whichever it may be. For them, there is no god.
Agnostics, refuse to believe in any Religion, which is a huge difference. An agnostic accepts the fact that there probably is a supreme being, a God in some sense that created the universe at some point. However, they do not accept the dogmas of any religion, Christianity, Islam, whatever, they believe them to be wrong. They believe in a god, but revere him in there own personal way, without seeking guidance from more enlightened people.
I myself am an atheist. Perhaps I will convert to agnosticism at some point in my life, if I get the feeling that perhaps a god does exist. It's a possibility. I'm doubtful of it, but it could happen. I know for a fact that I will never turn to any religion, because there are too many inconsistencies in the teachings.
First of all is evolution. There are enough proofs of evolution out there to make it undeniable, at least in my eyes.
Second, is the presence of so many different religions throughout time and space. Why, if God really created the first two human beings, would people have ever believed in any religion other than Christianity (or whichever religion is right)? Wouldn't they have passed it on to their children, and only one religion have ever existed in history?
Most important of all, why have all major religions such a short history? 2000 years old for Christianity, less even than that for Islam, Asian religions are older than that, but still a lot younger than humanity. Where have our gods been over the 200,000 years (minimum) of the modern human existence?
And last but not least, look around us. Our world's a mess. Natural catastrophies, wars, global warming, pollution... If there is indeed a god watching over us, he's either doing a very poor job, or he doesn't give a fuck. And in either case, why the fuck should i care about him/her/it?
cerement:
--- Quote from: Pypoli on 02 Sep 2009, 01:18 ---And last but not least, look around us. Our world's a mess. Natural catastrophies, wars, global warming, pollution... If there is indeed a god watching over us, he's either doing a very poor job, or he doesn't give a fuck. And in either case, why the fuck should i care about him/her/it?
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Congratulations, your answer is Discordianism! The worship of the Greek goddess Eris, the goddess of chaos, confusion, and things that just don't go right. Even from your examples, it's clear you've already seen her influence in your life ...
--- Quote from: Malaclypse the Younger ---The human race will begin solving its problems on the day that it ceases taking itself so seriously.
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--- Quote from: Oscar Wilde ---Life is too important to be taken seriously.
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