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Iron Man 2
Alex C:
One of my favorite quotes of all time: "Man, Stark's got a shitty rogue's gallery. Captain America, a bad ticker and alchohol, that's it." Sometimes, I think the only thing I like about that Civil War arc was all the Tony Stark jokes that got dragged out of the woodwork for it. Personally, I rather like some of Stark's villains, but then, Iron Man and Batman are my favorite super heroes, so I'm biased.
Anyway, I think the problem with most super hero villains is that too many of them are defined mostly by their abilities or are otherwise narrow characters. The Joker can get away with this because his only real shtick these days is being completely fuckin' insane, and there's a lot a writer can do with a balls-out sociopath. The Joker sucked for a few decades but a few decent writers playing up his creepy-as-hell potential brought things up to speed quite quickly.
Whereas Spider-man has villains like Rhino, who is basically just your average thug with a rhino suit. Take away his super strength and he goes from crashing the Hulk's wedding to breaking knee caps for the local bookie. Not exactly a dynamic character.
Professor Snuggles:
--- Quote from: Tybalt on 09 Jan 2009, 17:49 ---
--- Quote from: 0bsessions on 09 Jan 2009, 10:43 ---Because man, alcoholism is so attractive and enviable!
*Swoon*
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Anyone who can build a super mecha suit with limited supplies is someone to be envied. Besides, the alcoholism was barely present in the movie.
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Are you kidding? You saw his glass of whiskey before you saw him in the first scene, and he was drinking basically constantly throughout the film. They set it up quietly in the first one because they wanted to make it a bigger deal in the second, as far as scuttlebutt I've read goes.
Scandanavian War Machine:
--- Quote from: Inlander on 12 Jan 2009, 20:51 ---Actually the traditional superhero movie show-down with the big bad tough guy at the end of Iron Man was by some margin the weakest and least interesting part of the whole film. If they want to make Iron Man 2 as enjoyable as the first movie was they'll be smart and realise that the audience has seen the superhero/supervillain show-down again, and again, and again, and is well and truly over it.
At least, I am.
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agreed completely. easily the weakest part of the entire movie; partially because it's a cliche but also because they paced the whole thing all wrong. it's like the entire movie is just Tony Stark partying and doing the occasional badass robot-man stuff and then out of nowhere it's like "okay, here the big bad boss fight with the villain who barely had any screen time and we never really properly introduced as a real villain anyway. oh yeah and he has a giant robot suit too! wham!"
lame.
Jackie Blue:
Oddly enough, that's also how I felt about the Norton/Roth showdown at the end of the latest Hulk movie.
Scandanavian War Machine:
huh i pretty much feel exactly the opposite way about The Incredible Hulk.
it's actually the movie i use as an example when explaining my problems with Iron Man to people.
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