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New trend in Northwest espresso: embarrassingly dressed baristas
jhocking:
--- Quote from: Spike on 13 Jan 2009, 15:56 ---This may be a little off topic but after reading that, and some of the responses to peoples comments, that person inspires nothing but rage.
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Her best line from the comments:
--- Quote ---I don't hate your sex, I hate your gender. If you don't understand what I mean by that then go and do your feminist homework before attempting to take up space on my blog.
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Someone please explain to me what this means. I'm very curious!
Spluff:
That is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure what she is referring to is that technically your 'sex' is only related to whether you produce sperm or ova, and the specific body parts that do that, whereas 'gender' includes all the rest of the connotations that go with being a male or female.
To actually differentiate between the two (in a non scientific environment) is probably one of the most anal things I have ever seen.
benji:
--- Quote from: Hat on 13 Jan 2009, 16:20 ---That's your hangup, not the hangup of the women working there or the people who buy coffee there. I've been to bars where shirtless muscle men make cocktails, and I don't particularly like that idea anymore than I like having a set of tits thrust at me early in the morning when I am just trying to get a cup of coffee, but these women choose to work there and make a fuckload of money exploiting the male sex drive. In fact I think this is less demeaning than the average strip club because its unlikely most of these girls are strung out on meth and pills just to come into work in the morning.
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I never said it was damaging, I just said I don't think I would shop there. I don't have a problem with the women who work at this coffee shop, nor do I have a problem with it's patrons. I also don't have a problem with Hooters, or with strip clubs for that matter. I just don't particularly want to go there, and I reject the Orbert's assertion that me stating a preference for not going to the sexy coffee shop is somehow irrational. I'm making a fully rational choice. I know what I want with my coffee, and half naked women aren't on that list. These women can choose to work there, and Orbert can choose to buy coffee there. I will choose to buy mine elsewhere.
tania:
sex refers to biological characteristics while gender refers to the socialization a person undergoes depending on their sex. gender roles, pretty much.
an example is a person transitioning from male to female. their (original) sex is male but their gender is female because they identify as one.
tania:
also brett i am sorry but arguing that something is okay because there are worse things is kind of a bullshit argument imo. drug-addicted strippers might be worse than scantily-clad baristas but that's irrelevant because we're not talking about drug-addicted strippers, we're talking about scantily-clad baristas. for every thing you can always find a worse thing and if that's how everyone made their points nothing would ever be accomplished.
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